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dotcombuilder.com  allows you to create web sites , offering different services, in which you can market.

• does anybody have any experience with them.
• any advice about programs like this.

I`m thinking  since I feel I have the marketing programs  that have the ability to make any viable product or service success  , why not use these as my starting point??

Any comments , ideas or suggestions.

Michael T

 

 

 

I`m not sure what you are saying you want to do. Are you going to resell their products, or ???

I went to the site, and they list several options in their FAQ. As a developer (this was one of the options listed), I would never get a service like this because I can write my own stuff for cheaper than they are charging. Your situation is a little different though ...

My question is this ... if you are not developing the site, what are you selling?

I want to market the services with my marketing ideas.

I want to establish the service, (the different sites) and then sell them.   Actually owning the sites,  or at least parially owning them,    If I sell the site  then what do I have     " a one time sale"...

I think it would cost me 79$ to have access to the program ( for 3 months I think) I can set up my own sites.     and you are saying you can have all those set up for less than a 79$ cost???

Micahel T

I`m saying, you get what you pay for.

Someone purchasing a site from you for $79 that doesn`t work very well isn`t going to help them very much. It would be in their best interest to *not* use you.

I still don`t get what "the different sites" are that you are marketing. So you are going to use your few-clicks thing to make some site (what site?) and then sell that site to someone? Why would they go with you and not do GoDaddy`s Web Site Tonight (which has a huge advertising budget!) for less money? How are you going to support the site after the sale? Will you customize the site for each person?

OK ... I just found the list of websites available.

Honestly, I don`t know what business owner would use those kinds of layouts. They seem cheap and simplistic. They seem more targeted to internet marketers, who would be more prone to do it themselves than to pay you.

I need to do something , I will back this eve for a complete and proper reply.

I am an innovator, a thinker or simply put, a problem solver.   One of our members a few months ago stated that if you can make something 10% better, people will buy it.   Well, this is what I do,  I make things better.

I am not a computer programmer, web site designer or graphics art prefessional.  These are not my areas of expertise. 

I have created marketing and incentive programs, when properly combined, will create a consumer mativation factor like the world has never seen.  I can either try to sell them to existing businesses for pennies on the dollar of their real value or I can create new brands and product lines. 

If I decide to sell my services and skills to existing businesses,

• I run the risk of loosing market share  to these businesses if they so choose to develope a look alike version of the programs because of their resources and their established business infrastructure.
• This doesn`t include the hurdle of getting the ear of the proper person within their organization and I have to hope they have the vision needed to identify new opportunities.
• I would also loose the control necessary to bring the whole program together.  Too many corporations that too are short sighted and are willing to sacrifice long term growth for short term profits.

If I develope a new network of businesses,

• I will be able to ensure that each of the programs are properly implemented .
• That the profits of these new businesses are distriibuted to the proper organizations and members.
• More of the value of these programs will given to the people that this program is intended to benefit.  (I`m sorry I left this area so vague, it is an important part of the program which needs to be kept secure for the time being).

Since I have not been able to find the interested individuals, with the abilities and willingness to partner with me to create these desired web sites, I have to create a different avenue in which I can get this program off the ground.  If you are interested in discussing possible partnership arrangements  feel free to PM me.  

My offer is to develop a business in which it will outsource (subcontract) its services to an existing businesses.  My job would be to bring the customers in and my partner would service the job. This includes the production of every  type of product and service.

But until one does develop, I am looking at dotcombuilder as a source to get me started,  then I will be able to make the neccessary adjustments by hiring the professionals if neccessary.

Now to your reply..............................

Someone purchasing a site from you for $79 that doesn`t work very well isn`t going to help them very much. It would be in their best interest to *not* use you.

I have no intentions of selling the developed sites.  I am going to develop and market them.

I still don`t get what "the different sites" are that you are marketing.

Every site from auto classifieds to garage sale and real estate web sites.

So you are going to use your few-clicks thing to make some site (what site?)

Every site from auto classifieds to garage sale and real estate web sites.

 and then sell that site to someone?

I have no intentions of selling the developed sites.  I am going to develop and market them.

Why would they go with you and not do GoDaddy`s Web Site Tonight (which has a huge advertising budget!) for less money?

Because, I have created marketing and incentive programs, when properly combined, will create a consumer mativation factor like the world has never seen.

How are you going to support the site after the sale?

Becauase I am not a computer programmer, web site designer or graphics art prefessional.  These areas are not my specialty.  I will struggle my arcse off until I get established enough to have a professional do it.

Will you customize the site for each person

Honestly, I don`t know what business owner would use those kinds of layouts. They seem cheap and simplistic.

Is that a bad thing?  Not everybody is a web site designer.  The average consumer would never identify these as cheap and simplistic, even thou they maybe just that.  But remember this is just a start.

 ............who would be more prone to do it themselves than to pay you.

You are absolutely correct.  That is why so few people hire business coaches or marketing and many other professionals, because they feel they can do it themselves.

Honestly, I feel my days at SuN maybe limited.  I have made some contacts and for me to continue to fish in a pond without that what I am looking for, would seem to be less than productive.

Michael T

"Honestly, I feel my days at SuN maybe limited.  I have made some contacts and for me to continue to fish in a pond without that what I am looking for, would seem to be less than productive."

Sounds as though you are closed minded and are unable to communicate what you are going to do. What are you "fishing" for? You stated all the above and really what it comes down to is that you want to be a online marketing agency.

"The average consumer would never identify these as cheap and simplistic, even thou they maybe just that.  But remember this is just a start."

Not sure how I feel about that quote???!!!??? 

Sounds as though you are closed minded

I would really like to know where you got that idea from...

For the record, there is nobody more open minded as myself, believe it or not.  I could continue on but  my open mindedness is not the topic.   No if you want to say my grammar skills  suck ,  I will not argue that point, Heck I would argue on your side.  But open minded, don`t go there.

and are unable to communicate what you are going to do. 

You are partially right and wrong,  I can tell you what  I am going to do... 

I am going to successfully market every viable product and service within every industrialized nation.  The How is by "offering consumers incentives that have never been offered to them before, for patronizing these brands"  The speicifics  on the how, is confedential, this is intellectual property that I need to keep secure to ensure a competitive edge over the competition that will try to compete with me with my own programs.

What are you "fishing" for? 

I am seeking experts from different industries that are willing to partner with me.  These partners will operate our partnerships, or I can simply hire someone for much less, but I feel nobody works like an owner, thus the reason for the partnerships.

Take nhgnikole,  in essence I am interested in partnering with him to develop the largest web development franchise corporation in the world.  If he is game  and open minded enough to believe that I can make that happen.

 

You stated all the above and really what it comes down to is that you want to be a online marketing agency.

As stated above....."I have created marketing and incentive programs, when properly combined, will create a consumer mativation factor like the world has never seen.  I can either try to sell them to existing businesses for pennies on the dollar of their real value or I can create new brands and product lines.  "   

why would I want to limit myself and the programs potential with being just an online marketing agency???? My intentions are to create the largest business organization in the world,  just a smidge more than "an online marketing agency"

As stated above "... I am looking at dotcombuilder as a source to get me started...."

"The average consumer would never identify these as cheap and simplistic, even thou they maybe just that.  But remember this is just a start."

Not sure how I feel about that quote???!!!??? 

I know someone who took one of those site and  published it.   Another one of my friends , who is more than just an average internet consumer didn`t know where he got it from, was surprised  at the "Image" of the site.

Which is more important  content and benefits or the professionalism of a site.    Suppose I was a stock broker that sold memberships to my web site which offered stock picks and had a record of realizing 50% ROI, but it was only in text format.  I mispelled every word I published except the symbols of my stock picks which were averaging the 50% rate of return.   Are you, or anybody as far as that goes,  going to look for a different site that presented itself better or are you going to refer your friends to my web site???/

Take yourself, CSpurgeon, you like to research.  I am willing to bet that not only could I come up with a business that would use your skills but I could also market it into a successful nationally recognized organization. 

As I was typing that paragraph, I already came up with the answer.

Michael T

Michael,

I did not want this to be a stab at yourself, and apologize if it seemed as such. Guess you caught me on a bad day and I misinterpreted what you were trying to say.

Chris