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wtgg

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Oct 30, 2007 7:59 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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guy`s I am admittedly a dolt when it comes to websites. I built a site just as a landing spot to send people using classified ads and hopefully soon ebay customers. i`ve spent about 8 hours on it so far so you can imagine how primitive it is (my profession is engineering mechanical / electrical / electronics but not digital, my business is woodworking).
a few weeks ago I asked why I returned on page 4 of google search before aol even returned the site with www.yardleisure.com as the query. well over the weekend a different phase was searched and landed on my site, curious I searched it, it hit page one of google, entry 8. so I researched the first phrase and now I was entry 8 of page 2. following up I checked aol and sure enough there I was same spot. I just searched before writing this post and now I`m entry 6 on both engines (adirondack stuff) and entry 2 on page 2 (picnic table detached benches). I went live in september.
Any ideas what I did? I don`t think with my site in it`s present condition search results will help much with conversions but on the other hand, peak season is not for another 6 months so if I can understand this I might be able to capitalize.
any thoughts or comments?
 
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Oct 30, 2007 8:10 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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This demonstrates the "power" of page titles.

Your search on "adirondack stuff" matches the page http://yardleisure.com/adarondak.aspx title "Adirondack".

Of course your site had to be indexed to make this happen. It was last retreved by google on 10/28/07.

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wtgg

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Oct 30, 2007 8:19 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks Roland, can I expect if I work with page titles to narrow down other phrases?
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Oct 31, 2007 2:59 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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If I`m not mistaken .... AOL serp`s are based on Google, so they`ll often be the same; they usually are for my sites, anyway.

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vwebworld

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Nov 01, 2007 10:26 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks Roland, can I expect if I work with page titles to narrow down other phrases?

Yes, but your search results will depend upon the competition for the targeted keywords you use in your page title.

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Nov 01, 2007 10:34 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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... your search results will depend upon the competition for the targeted keywords you use in your page title.

~Roland

Can you please expand on your latest post? 

 I`m not sure I understand EXACTLY what you are trying to say. And so that no one becomes confused, please share with us how competition for keywords will determine natural search engine placement and positioning.

vwebworld

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Nov 01, 2007 7:23 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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In response to Stan`s thought about changing the titles of pages to target other phrases... I`m suggesting that certainly can help search results. However, there is competition (other websites) that may also be targeting the same phrases.

Search engine results are not only affected by what you do on yourown web pages but also what others do on their web pages. Search engines spit out results based upon their own ranking/algorithms - both on-page and off-page factors.

For example: Let`s say Stan changes a web page title from adirondack stuff (959,00 results) to adirondack chairs (222,000 results) or adirondack (1 million results). I expect the placement of his page to be different. Everything else being equal* he should have better placement with adirondack chairs than just adirondack.

* "everything else being equal" meaning the competing web pages are equally optimized for adirondack chairs as they were for adirondack stuff.

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