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vErTIgO

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Feb 01, 2008 4:34 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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My title is slightly misleading but here goes.
I have an idea that seems to fit well with a industry or company and what they do and merging it with another industry. It would actually create a sort of industry on it`s own. There have been ideas that were close but nothing involving the exact industries I have thought of. I haven`t heard of the actual idea being done before . I have read all the conversations on protecting an idea but none were pointed at presenting the idea with a company, selling it to them, and then walking away. They all seemed to be about creating an idea or product and  producing it, selling it, and protecting it. I just want to protect my idea, present it to the one industry(whoever will show interest) and even let them choose who they would want to merge with in the other industry if they were interested.
This idea seems good to me but also risky and I wonder how to set it up and get it flowing  but remaining protected, if i can. I hope i explained this ok. It`s hard without giving all the info away.
EngineersCanSell

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Feb 01, 2008 7:35 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Well, it`s terribly difficult to know exactly what you`re asking, but here`s at least one answer.

1.  Is it a patentable product?  You can at least file for a provisional patent quite cheaply and claim that you have applied for patent protection when you talk to them.

2. You could try to make contact and establish a relationship and ask them to sign a confidentiality agreement with you - shoot me an email if you want a free template to use for this.  The problem with this approach is that this request might put them off right from the start and your relationship will be dead in the water.

3. A word of advice when you talk to the actual companies that you are trying to sell/partner to/with.  Don`t be as vague as you are here - they`ll kick you out.  Take a chance and bare your soul to them, if they are reputable, they won`t steal your idea anyway.  But if they think you might not have anything because you are being vague, you`re dead right from the start.

So my bottom line advice based on the limited knowledge that you`ve presented is to find reputable companies and tell as much of your story as you need to in order to get them hooked.  If you dance around too much about the secrecy of your idea, you`re probably going to spend more money than you need to and offend the very people you`re trying to do business with.  Also a prototype and a few case studies will go a lot farther than a simple slide presentation.


vErTIgO

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Feb 01, 2008 7:58 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I am pretty much relying on using the systems they have already mostly established and modifying them to work with my idea. I have a basic plan of how it would all work. So maybe if I could at least come up with some sort of layout to show them so they have an idea of what I`m thinking?
To patent something, doesn`t it have to be an actualy object? I can write the basic ideas down and draw how it would work... Because I have to really on what they have already built as a base for my idea, Would that be enough or would I just have to forget the patent and present the idea and hope they bite?
toppdogg

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Feb 01, 2008 9:38 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Well, there is an excellent book on how to file patents yourself.  The name of the book is "Patent It Yourself".  Once you read that book, you can do it yourself, saving you lots of money.
 
For small inventor, patent is only leverage you have when you deal with big corporations.  I won`t present the idea to any company without proper IP protection.  Depending on your products, for many big corporations, they want to protect themselves, too.  They are more afraid of you suing them for stealing your idea.  So I were you, I would file the patent, you will be in much better position.
 
Good luck!
 
Jerry
 
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CraigL

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Feb 01, 2008 10:19 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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We`ve had a number of people ask this same kind of thing, and the answer *tends to* come back that a company doesn`t care. If you submit the idea, they`ll either thank you, but no thanks, or they`ll use the idea as an inspiration to fully develop from scratch their own implementation and call it theirs.

Think about Smuckers`s and this "new" product they`ve released. It`s for the frozen section, and gives you pre-made crustless PB&J sammiches. Why did a jelly company take 1,000 years to figure out this product? Nobody knows. I`m sure people throughout history have asked themselves, "How come I can`t just get these sammiches like my ma used to make, already made?"

There are all kinds of ideas for better ways to utilize a product or technology, different marketing approaches, and so forth and so on. But the odds of convincing a company to put into play an idea from someone outside the company, which idea is also patented or legally protected so they`d have to pay royalties, is an uphill battle.

Is there ANY way you could produce this new implementation on your own, then go to the company and get a licensing agreement for the portion of the final product they could say they control?
vErTIgO

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Feb 02, 2008 10:00 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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For me to do this idea, i would have to literally create a food company and then tie it in with internet and merge it with the other industry which I would also have to develop from scratch. I`m not really sure how I would go about making all that. It`d be like putting three businesses together. Is this where a business plan would work well for me? And if it worked, I might as well just keep it away from the big companies and make my own dough.

CraigL

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Feb 03, 2008 2:35 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I guess it depends on the product and idea. But generally, without knowing any of the details, the likelihood of having the originating company buy your idea and pay royalties is pretty slim.
PCBA

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Nov 16, 2008 7:31 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi All,
 
If any one like to sell their ideas to a company and letting them do the work. Then you need to do lot of reading. Check following websites and they will provide you lot of information. mostly there are 4 steps and first 3 try to do your self if you do not want to spend lot of money in the start and for 4th one (selling the idea) let do some invention home/company.
 
 
 
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patentandtrademark

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Nov 17, 2008 11:05 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Legalzoom does not file patent applications anymore - wonder why?



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TigerTaco

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Nov 18, 2008 5:13 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I wonder why?  Please tell us.  Thank you.

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