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CraigL

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Nov 17, 2007 11:03 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Rich,
I think partly where I was going with this thread is the way subjective thinking is trending toward the dominant framework nowadays. A famous psychiatrist said, back around 1960, that we were developing a culture that would someday be looked back upon as the age of narcissism. So far, I`ve seen little to disagree.

To see things from a customer perspective not only requires empathy. It also requires an ability to step outside one`s own viewpoint---the subjective. And that means having some sort of objective viewpoint. I`ve been pondering for a long time how people learn that objectivity.

You`re making a great point, joining objective thinking with customer service. I really hadn`t thought of that while putting together this topic. But I think you`re right on target. And your thoughts on underpricing are exceptional.

We constantly hear about people starting a business then giving up because they feel they`re not good enough, the product isn`t all that great, nobody likes them, everyone tells them they suck, and so forth. I`ve always seen the psychological aspect of this, but until you brought it up, I hadn`t connected it with a failure to get outside the subject. Most excellent! :-)
Doozer

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Nov 18, 2007 5:43 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Craig,
The age of narcissism is a good label for our culture today.The age of entitlement is also, I think. Years ago, maybe only a few generations, everything in the culture promoted the idea that we were responsible for our own actions, that it was up to us to take the initiative and to always do what was right for the long term. This, I think involved a perspective that our collective futures were important and sometimes, it`s necessary to put this long-term goal ahead of any short-term personal gains. Today, that`s been turned around to the point that so much of what we do, both as individuals as well as a society is geared toward what makes us feel good now. Politicians have always played into this to some degree, but I think they`re having a bonanza these days.
Advertising phrases like "you deserve it" capitalize on this. One of my pet peeves is when I hear an ad where the announcer says, "we wanted to give back to the community" Bull! It`s just more promotion (if they really wanted to "give back" they wouldn`t announce it in an ad, they`d just do it!). Much of the activity that goes under the heading of compassion (for other ethnic groups, classes etc). is usually advocated by those who have either a profit or power motive. The welfare system in this country that has been scaled back in recent years, requiring those who can work to do so, kept many agencies in business.
As far as teaching it to children, I suppose it could be done by starting small but I think it might encounter opposition at some point when it became apparent that it is directly opposed to all we hold as "true" today.
Rich
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CraigL

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Nov 19, 2007 1:01 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Ah but that`s the thing. If you teach objective thinking, not some political thing, I`m thinking you might be able to sneak it in under the radar. :-)
Doozer

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Nov 19, 2007 8:03 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Well, it sure would be useful to the next generation to be able to see the forest as well as the trees Craig. Is this something you have worked on for awhile, or is it still in the thought stage?
Rich
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