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Hello.  I too am a member of PIF4P.  Have been now for almost 3 months.  I joined at no cost and followed the Day by Day Success Guide that`s available for free to all memebers.  I now have almost 50 in my downline, and many have joined the affiliate programs (also for free/trial period) and getting checks every month from 4 sources.  True, I have paid minimal for placing Ads but that can be done for free too and my checks are now paying for Ads I place and more.

Netuser, you can find out what other affiliate programs are available if you like.  Simply click the link in my SIG file below and sign up for free.  Any service an individual provides to another depends on the signee and if s/he requests help otherwise it`s all in the Success Guide.

PIF4P is NOT a scam!  We are making money. But bottom line... one needs to hang in there, follow the Success Guide and get comfortable helping others to succeed while they succeed. 

I love it!

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RSchlieper said it best "one needs to hang in there, follow the success guide and get comfortable helping others succeed while others succeed."

I love helping others and doing so while making money is a great feeling!

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Why is it so hard to just get a simple answer as to what is the product? I don`t want to click on this, go there, jump to someplace. I just want to know, what does Pay-It-Forward actually sell?

With your experience, I am sure that you are very comfortable helping others to succeed.  So can you tell me beside getting people to sign up, what are other income opportunities with PIF4P?  How do one get the income from the 4 sources that you mention in your message?  Do you personally provide any service (as compared to getting referral fees from ad you or your downlines place)?  I am curious.

Hi Gdicashflow,

The program`s empathesis to help others sounds great! Thanks for telling me that it is worth $10-$15 for each sign up.  It is great info.

Can you help me some more?  Can you tell me, beside getting people to sign up, what are other income opportunities with PIF4P?  Do you personally provide any service (as compared to getting referral fees from ad you or your downlines place)?  Are you or your downlines getting income from 4 sources like what RSchlieper has mentioned. I really need a lot of help and clairification from members like you who are eager to help. 

Thanks a lot.

OK Netuser,  The other programs or affiliates, are Global Domains International (GDI), Cashflow Magic and 3 Step Secret.  PIF4P is free and the 3 affiliate programs are also free but upgradeable for another source of income.  We, PIF4P, also use Traffic Oasis, Traffic Swarm, Success University and so on if one is really interested in making extra monies.  One should, however, have a Primary business for residual income.

What PIF4P offers is access to our Success Guide, which is FREE.  We don`t sell anything.

We provide service only if a new member requests help.  We usually give personal experiences or refer them to the Success Guide or any of many LIVE Conference calls or recorded training calls.

Netuser, simply sing on to PIF4P (it is free afterall, nothing to commit to) to access our Success Guide and read the first couple of Trainings in the Day to Day portion..

RSchlieper (Ron)

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If everything is free and nobody sells anything, where does the $10-15 come from?


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It looks like PIF4P is a generic shell to other MLMs.  In my past investigations, MLMs sell.overpriced products with generous split commissions to salespersons who does personal promotion of greed and/or products.

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PIF4P is a great business, i just started it and only have one sign up but wow this has really helped me become a better marketer. I was already making good money with my primary (the greatest business in the world) before I joined PIF4P. Ill give it two thumbs up!

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What is your "Primary business"? It is not obvious to me what your "Primary business" is from the site that your url, http://rschlieper.discovermangosteen.com/, points to.  The first part of the url looks like your handle/user name.  I assume there are many other similar urls with other people`s handles/usernames that point to the same website.  So is that your "Primary business"?  Do other share the same "Primary business" with you?  Or is "Primary business" mean something else?

I was a bit confused. While I was typing this message, I accidentally typed your handle/username wrong in the browser and I was brought to http://www.discovermangosteen.com/. Then I realized, "mangosteen" is the thing that I was meant to discover. I didn`t know what "mangosteen" was.  So I googled it and found out that it is some kind of plant.  Then I realized that the site is a MLM business selling products using or related to "mangosteeen". Interestingly, your site didn`t mention about this "mangosteen" plant.

So is your "Primary business" about this "mangosteeen" MLM business? Do you have any personal website about this MLM business?  There must be a lot of information regarding this plant on your website.  Have you tried them? Persoanl testimony is a great way to sell the products.

How does PIF4P work with this Primary business?  Or are they just seperate businesses that you have working on?  If they work together, I would like to know how?  If no, then it is great that you have so many businesses going at the same time.

For the other people running your own PIF4P downline, what are your Primary business, if any?