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OADesign

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Jul 11, 2008 6:49 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hello Everyone,
 
Here is my delima. I have an opportunity to work with a local business owner.
He wants to buy out another local business. But his problem is he cant run both his current business and the new one on his own. Whats he is suggesting is that we form a partnership between his LLC and myself. The Split would be 25/75 ownership with him owner the larger portion. On top of  the split, he would be me a salary to run the place. I`m not sure how this would work out with me being part owner, part employee.
 
My second thought is should i inc now or just wait a while. And if i do inc, can such a thing exist? a partnership between a LLC and an individual?
 
Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.
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Yes, you can be in a partnership with an LLC.  Your employment contract would be with the partnership and that would, most likely be spelled out either in the partnership agreement or as a separate document.

If you have other questions, let me know.

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kywomanjt

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I think you actually need some legal advice.  But you can search for LLC on www.lawdepot.com for reading information on LLC.  I`d also suggest checking out IRS.gov website to keep yourself out of "tax" type trouble. 
 
 
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kywomanjt7/14/2008 1:47 AM
FastVentures

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Most likely, there won’t be a problem with you entering into a partnership with an LLC.

Your salary would be treated just like any other salary that you receive from any other business entity.

Your equity stake in the LLC, however, may require some thoughtful consideration.

First of all, it is important to understand that LLC’s are not separate tax entities. With other words, the LLC won’t owe any taxes to the IRS and State Department of Revenue, but you being one of the owners will. Here’s an example: Let’s say the LLC has generated a profit of $300,000 but decides not to pay out any dividends because they want to retain their earnings to expand the business. Under this scenario you didn’t receive a dime in dividend payments, but guess you will be on the hook for taxable revenues of about $75,000 (25% of $300,000)?

While this sounds bad, there’s an easy way to circumvent such a dilemma. Just make sure to include a clause in your member/partnership agreement that guarantees minimum dividend payments sufficient to cover any tax liabilities.

If you incorporate as a C-Corp, the situation will be different, because C-Corps are separate tax entities. However, since they are separate tax entities, they are also subject to corporate income tax, which means our fictitious revenues of $300,000 will be taxed at the corporate level by as much as 34% before the net revenues become available for allocation to you as a shareholder of the C-Corp. This is known as double taxation because you will be paying (i) income taxes at the corporate level and then (ii) personal income tax on your capital gains.

So, you being a salaried employee and member/partner in the LLC appears to be the most economical solution.

In any event, you should probably consult with an attorney or CPA to get an exact overview of the pros & cons.

I hope this helps.


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robertj

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Hello Everyone,
 
Here is my delima. I have an opportunity to work with a local business owner.
He wants to buy out another local business. But his problem is he cant run both his current business and the new one on his own. Whats he is suggesting is that we form a partnership between his LLC and myself. The Split would be 25/75 ownership with him owner the larger portion. On top of  the split, he would be me a salary to run the place. I`m not sure how this would work out with me being part owner, part employee.
 
My second thought is should i inc now or just wait a while. And if i do inc, can such a thing exist? a partnership between a LLC and an individual?
 
Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.

If I your post correctly, you will not be owning 25% of his LLC - but his LLC will own 75% of this new bsiness and you will own the remaining 25% .

I wouldn`t use a partnership as the structure for this new business because you could find yourself 100% liable for it!  I can recommend a good small business /securities attorney, if you don`t know one - but you really need to consult with one before you proceed.



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OADesign

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Jul 14, 2008 9:16 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks FastVentures and robertj !
 
robertj you understood correct.
I will not be owning 25% of his LLC - but his LLC will own 75% of this new business and I will own the remaining 25% .
 
I am considering forming an S corp, but I`m still on the fence about it. Thanks for your input(s).
Anymore ideas/opinions? Any recommendation for CPAs/business attorneys here in Southern California?
robertj

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Jul 14, 2008 9:32 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I can connect you with an excellent business /securities attorney who is also a CPA and caters to small businesses.

Furthermore,  a S corp has limitations - some of which would eliminate it from the joint venture situation you have described.  

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OADesign

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Jul 27, 2008 1:07 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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robertj It would be great if you could connect me with this individual.

 

infinique

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May 19, 2010 10:42 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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There are liabilities in starting a business and I would suggest that you only start a business relationship with people you are close to.



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