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idahobob

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Feb 03, 2009 7:22 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I have realized for some time now that at some point in by business plan, I would reach a stage where the "what i need done" and the ability to do it myself is reached. or my want`s are more than my capability to produce them...
 
In this world of techno marketing the options and methods and avenues of marketing and advertising are almost overwhelming to an old guy and while i see all of the avenues i am wanting to explor, either time or experience or knowledge or experience  eludes me.
 
That all being said, I realize i need help in getting my product properly represented to the correct markets... the designs are done, prototyping is complete, orignal is made and it can be duplicated and we have customers now buying. but... it coud be so much more than it is.
 
Now what i really need is someone more qualified to do the job i`ve created for myself or at least a project manager or two who can handle smaller projects. or someone to help sort out and brainstorm some of my ideas into what is possisble, what is likely and what is hopeful thinking. Being too involved with your product and business isn`t always a good thing and i need to be sure i haven`t lost my perspective. (like a reality check)
 
So, all of this brings me to this forum and post... here i am, now what do i do?  any pro`s who would like to take a look at the big picture and help point me in the right direction?
 
thanks for your time and advice.
 
 
 
 
 
Nuevolution

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Feb 04, 2009 3:12 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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IDAHOBOB...
Shrugging.... I understand what you`re going through. I am in the same position as you, where the things that need to be done are done. Ive also realized that I can`t do everything on my own and though I try to keep things organized and documented, I understand that if I want to grow I`m going to have to hire people.

It is no longer about doing the things that need to be done... it`s about appointing the people that are going to get things done. Thus it scares me because I know I have to deal with hiring and payroll, but if I need the help? and its going to help me expand, why not?

I think you should look into hiring someone to help you...



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DReynolds

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Feb 04, 2009 7:18 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Bob & Edgar, have you ever considered partnering with a Virtual Assistant? 
 
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wtgg

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Feb 04, 2009 9:10 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Idahobob;  I can relate somewhat, what I was doing as far as marketing was working at least some. Rather than get some outside advice I chose to think I would get it as it went. well what I was doing quit working, and now I don`t have the cash flow to go outside.
so the new plan for me is to keep banging away until cash flows again, then I plan to find a coach type arrangement, to help guide me through marketing.
I don`t believe (at least for me) that I should hand the reins over to someone, as (from my experience) this may possibly be the most important part of success. I think we all have great products, the best service, and have done everything we know to do, but to stop there and hire someone to do it for me just doesn`t seem practical for the long term picture. Rather hire a coach / teacher if you will to teach me how to be great at this part of the equation.
My way of thinking (and may be way off) is all the tasks all ready worked out and everyday are more easily delegated, then I can just monitor without micromanaging while I grow myself and the company.
As I look back over the last 18 months or so, I have had to learn so much just to get here, as I am sure you did as well, to just "farm" out the next steps would be frustrating at best.
For me anyway this is MY adventure, it`s success or failure is MY fault.
Score has several coaches, free, so if you have the cash flow to implement their recommendations I would look there first.   
Just a thought
CraigL

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Feb 04, 2009 2:58 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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This problem is growing and likely will soon become a flood of people in similar situations. It`s a niche waiting to be filled.

One possible idea would be to first join the local Chamber of Commerce. Then, as a member, propose a special-interest group of micro-business owners looking for solutions to your above problem---a common one.

The idea is to form an organized group of entrepreneurs with limited startup funds, to help barter and exchange skills and talents.

The reason for the CoC is that it`s an in-place organization already geared toward business owners, the local community, and promoting business development.
idahobob

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Feb 04, 2009 6:47 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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All good suggestions>
Debbie, I never heard of a VA until you pointed it out. Sounds like a great idea. I`m not sure if outsourcing the administrative end is what`s necessary for us right now but it`s good to know that i can rely on this sort of help "when" the time arises. It can come in real handy.
 
As edgar says, hiring someone to help me is sure on the table but what I "think" I am searching for first is direction. We are coming from an environment of doing strictly custom work to offering our product to the public at large. It`s like going from our nice shop in the woods to say New yourk city or something, it`s a real culture shock... now, just going out into the big city is at least going to get me lost and at worst, I`m going to end up down the wrong alley. A Tour guide of sorts... like a realitor that specializes in guys from the woods who are relocated to a city might be more of a better hire? maybe a taxi driver or concierge?
 
Stans Makes another good point, THis is my last hurrah project and I`ve taken my time not only in developing it but also advancing it. It`s been my experience that the most exciting times i`ve had in any business were the start up times and the hard struggling time, the times when we spent our last house payment on gold to make a job and our coffee money on a box to ship it in......  getting there for me is Most of the fun... Once I`m there, I`m ready  to leave again.
 
THose times that had pay off`s, i was barely interested any more and actually bored. Like Stan, I also want to experience the full ride... good bad, ugly, hardships, bad decisions and all of the skills 50 years has taught me to overcome them. I signed up for the full meal deal and I`m gettin git.
 
I suppose at times, we all want to throw up our hands and say "SOMEBODY TAKE MY JOB" but reality set`s back in and we find another route.
 
Craigs suggestion of joining a club or some other business group or meeting of the minds  is a good idea but it requires you actually living or being able to readilly get to a meeting. We are not exactly living in a populated area of the world. And, You Know, I`ve been to a lot of things like this and you really need to have the right personality and be able to mingle and socialize and do it on a regular basis... the last organized meeting i was involved with was a pta meeting 20 years ago and trying to get people together to agree on a simple thing like pizza night or chicken night was nearly impossible, 
 
But, I`m sure people "can" do it and make it work but  I`m not even a big mingler in real life... I hardly talk to my own customers except by e-mail...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
CraigL

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Feb 04, 2009 6:55 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Uh....the Chamber of Commerce isn`t a "club." :-) Almost every town in the country will have a CoC.

At issue here isn`t a club where people have to agree or not agree on something. It`s a gathering of like-minded people for the purpose of combining resources.

For example, why bother to join Startup Nation? Nothing`s going to get solved, nobody`s going to agree on everything so who cares? What`s the point? It`s just another club, right?

Life offers a nearly infinite set of pathways---problems and solutions. No matter what anyone is doing, there are ways to make it more complicated, more sophisticated, more elegant and so forth. If you like the struggle part, you can always introduce more struggles simply by expanding your parameters.

At the moment, it`s not that easy to find an education in a box for ecommerce. Nor is there a tourist package for trips to Mars. The Internet and Web are a new frontier, undeveloped, disorganized, and evolving.

You can look at ecommerce as an interesting place to go visit, and hire a "guide" who can show you all the odd things. Or you can look at the Internet as a wild frontier filled with chaos and dangers, opportunities and solutions.

40 years from now, people will look back at "The Internet" of the early 21st century, and say, "Oh! How quaint!" Just so, we look back at Columbus and his weird little boat, sailing across the Atlantic and say the same thing.

Today, we would call up a travel agent, book a transatlantic cruise, and have someone show us the way to Europe while we eat and dance, swim and play shuffleboard.

How come there weren`t any travel agents to help out Columbus? :-D
CraigL2009-2-4 19:24:4
idahobob

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Feb 04, 2009 7:25 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Right, I just threw "club" into the "or some other business group or meeting of the minds" to be more inclusive of the general idea. networking amoungst and with the people of "like" minds and or goals..
 
I`m only 50+ but in all of that time, I haven`t found many of "like" (my) mind. The ones I have I`ve lost contact with or they are dead. Hence my interest in this group.:)
 
 
boiseboys

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Feb 04, 2009 7:34 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi, Bob! 
 
Are you in Idaho?  Your name gave me that impression, but your website indicated otherwise.  Craig`s suggestion regarding the Chamber of Commerce is a good one, but I think the local Small Business Development Center might be even better for you.  Not sure where you are physically located, but because Idaho`s population is so unevenly dispersed geographically, the SBDC does an amazing job of offering webinars and even individual consultations and coaching  via phone and web resources.  If you are across the border, I`m sure the Idaho offices could connect you with those in your own state.
 
~ Tracy
wtgg

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Feb 04, 2009 8:05 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Bob, I think I am a bit like you (with some exceptions Sun being one) I am not much of a people person either. I prefer to deal via email, and I too am 50+, and I believe a few others that replied are in the same decade.
I really don`t think age has a point here other than willingness to grow personally, it is easy to say I`m old so you change to meet me, when we were young we said F*&^ you, guess what; that`s what they are saying to us.
Do a Google search for the SCORE website, you can choose as many mentors as you need for any topic, do all the work via email (hope your fingers work well) and get "totally awesome" advice all for free, as I often say they teach you S*&^  (read stuff) you never knew you didn`t know.
it is a great place to learn without any financial obligation, and if you have the cash flow and implement their suggestions ( they will help you do that as well) it could be as close to instant as practical.
just some more thoughts. welcome aboard to Sun, and great luck!!


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