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Oct. 09 2008 at 7:34 PM
No Photo Posted by: Jnbill1204
I need some advice and I am not sure that this is the right forum but I am posting it here anyway.  I have been in talks with a marketing manager to grow my business.  I will not be paying him but will be partnering with me.  He is requesting a near equal share with me.  I am not going to give up control of the company to him.  He has the contacts to grow my business and could do a very good job but I am worried that I may be giving up too much interest in the company.   I would like some opinions on this.  He will be giving a sizeable amount of money to company and expertise in marketing but I just don't like the idea of bringing him in as a partner.  I was curious to know what other options people have done in situations like these?
Oct. 09 2008 at 8:03 PM
StartUpSmart Posted by: StartUpSmart
Hi,
 
That's always a tough situation. Some quick thoughts are: some states require a 67% minimum ownership stake to sell the company (in the future) without consent from the other shareholders. You need to think about what the company's valuation might be in the future if you bring this person on versus not bringing him/her on. In other words...is it better to own 100% of a company that is worth $500k or is it better to own 60% of a company that is worth $2M?
 
Also, if you do take this person on as a partner please please please be absolutely sure you discusss your exit strategy with them. If you are entering the partnership thinking that you want to keep the business as a cash flow source for the next 10 years and your partner is thinking you will grow the company fast and sell it or take it public in 3 to 5 years then you could have trouble.
 
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Oct. 10 2008 at 6:56 AM
gaping Posted by: gaping
I think the very first thing you need to reconcile is whether you need a partner or not.  If the partner will add significant value to your business then maybe it's worth pursuing the idea of a partnership or corporation.  Adding signficant value means (and it is not money in this sense) providing the right business direction, strategy, network, expertise and skills that you yourself don't have.  However, if he will just duplicate what you know and what you have, then it is not worth giving up shares.
 
Once you have established that, and if the answer is yes (you need him or a partner), then the next question is, is there an alignment in mission, vision and values?  This is crucial as the first one as you don't want just anyone working with you everyday that you would run in major conflicts.  You can debate and disagree in strategies but not in your long term mission, vision and the values you stand for.
 
If the these 2 acid tests do not pass, then hiring or subcontracting is the best alternative to get the 'same' results for your business.
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Oct. 10 2008 at 11:50 AM
robertj Posted by: robertj Sunbassador
Some thoughts to ponder:
 
If he is putting cash into the business - he is an investor. You both should be clear on the deal and arrangements.
 
If he is marketing your business as if he is a contractor - then you both need to be clear on the expectations and measurements. If he is getting some ownership for this effort - it should be based upon results.
 
If he is "joining" the company as an active participant (with some ownership position) you'll need to define those "terms" and expectations.
 
Sounds like you've got all three in play - so an agreement could be complex.
 
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Oct. 11 2008 at 4:30 PM
CraigL Posted by: CraigL
Your other option is to grow the business yourself. How much do you think this other guy can grow your business, and can you match that amount? How much do you think you can grow the business yourself, and would that be satisfactory? Craig Landes
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Oct. 12 2008 at 12:59 AM
No Photo Posted by: Jnbill1204
He brings a strong marketing and sales background.  He brings certain contacts to the company that could we could really benefit from.  But the most important is that he is very good with sales.  He is very persuasive.  Now as far as growing the business myself.  I could do it but it might take me some time.  I am a very good people person but I have a very hard time adding value to the product I am selling.  IT has a lot of value but I am a very "to the point" type of person and have a hard time creating value when I am pitching a product or service.   I am trying my hardest to get over this.  So this is my dilema.   If someone could recommend some good books that would help me out in this area I think that I could grow the business myself and do just fine with it.
Oct. 12 2008 at 1:37 AM
CraigL Posted by: CraigL
Alright, it sounds to me as if you basically would prefer to do this on your own so to speak. Not alone, but as your own project. It also sounds as though you don't particularly want the business to grow huge all in a minute, but that growth over time would be fine.

Another thing to consider is that if your associate is a very good sales person, you may be falling for a sales pitch yourself. :-)

Taken together, I'm getting the sense that you'd prefer to keep the company your own, but you're not sure if you'll be able to develop the skills to grow it yourself.

The other side of this is that if you give away part of the company, it's pretty hard to get it back later. Why not try to do what you really want, and grow the company as you learn more about sales? If it doesn't work out, and there's interest right now, the likelihood is you'll still have the outside interest later. But you'll have given your own capabilities a fair test.
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Oct. 14 2008 at 5:51 PM
BonnieGK Posted by: BonnieGK
"IT has a lot of value but I am a very "to the point" type of person and have a hard time creating value when I am pitching a product or service."
 
This statement told me a lot! My take is that you are struggling with the difference between marketing and sales. You may not need a partner or salesman, you need better marketing and the sales will come more easily. Marketing is all about creating the perception of value in your product or service...Value Proposition. Though I don't know enough about your company, I would suggest trying a marketing consultant who can also implement the marketing collateral that will make your job of selling easier. Then, if you don't get the results as fast as you would like, adding another salesperson will be easier, less costly than a partner and will accelerate your results to the bottom line.
 


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