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patentandtrademark

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Sep 22, 2008 5:00 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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How can I tell if my product infringes a design patent?  The long awaited "EGYPTIAN GODDESS" case decided today [9-22-2008] answered that question.  Unless the case is appealed, here was the standard set forth by the CAFC:
 
The accused product infringes the design patent if the accused device is so similar to the claimed device that a purchaser familiar with the prior art would be deceived by the similarity between the claimed device and the accused device - inducing the purchaser to purchase the accused device supposing the accused device to be the claimed device.
 
In other words, if somebody buying your product is deceived into thinking they are buying the product shown in your competitors design patent, you infringe.
 


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CraigL

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Sep 22, 2008 9:35 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hmm...to my understanding a design patent covers also the way a product is put together? Or is there a "process" patent?

In other words, what exactly is a design patent?
patentandtrademark

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Sep 23, 2008 9:34 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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design patents cover ornamental features of items

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Lindon & Lindon, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio
Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
[this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
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CraigL

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Ah...I get it. So here`s a question regarding two aspects of our signal flags. First, though, since they`re signal flags they`re in the public domain I believe. We can`t patent the flags themselves.

If we were to try and patent the geometric and color pattern of each flag, that would be a design patent, right?

But what`s the type of patent used to cover the way we sew each flag in order to produce that pattern so exactly? (I mean the geometry, using cloth to form a box with less than 1/16th inch variance.)
CraigL2008-9-23 16:7:19
nahtan

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Sep 24, 2008 9:36 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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CraigL, what your talking about is called a "Utility" patent.  Here is link that explains it.
 
CraigL

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Sep 24, 2008 3:12 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Zounds...that`s the word. I forgot. We`ve had discussion, here on SuN about the utility patent. Thanks for the reminder.
patentandtrademark

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Sep 25, 2008 1:29 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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if the process you use to make flags is new and also not obvious [a whole other can of worms], that might be covered with a utility patent.

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Lindon & Lindon, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio
Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
[this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
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CraigL

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Sep 25, 2008 2:40 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Yes, the process meets those requirements. However, it`s so "not obvious" that we`re just as well off not patenting it. Likely nobody would be able to reverse engineer what we`re doing, so there`s little danger of copying.

On the other hand, the more people making signal flag messages, the larger the market becomes and the more we`ll sell as part of that expansion. If we put in a utility patent, I`m thinking it would include complete explanations of exactly what we`re doing.

Aren`t patents available for public viewing?
patentandtrademark

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Sep 26, 2008 11:52 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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issued patents are public records.  you can search at google or uspto.gov.  once an invention is commercialized for a year, the inventor is barred from obtaining a patent on the invention.

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James Lindon, Ph.D. Patent Attorney
Lindon & Lindon, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio
Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
[this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
http://www.LindonLaw.com
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