I run accross this site by surfing for corporate credit.  This is seem like what I am looking for.  Can someone tell me that this is a credible site before I pay them?

 www.corponefinancial.com

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely.

I would check with the BBB before I deal with them.

You can apply for a DnB number by yourself, then apply for credit.

Just my opinion.

PNA,
I went to the link and it seems as if their account was suspended... My advise to you, don`t do business with them... if you`re looking into starting business or corporate credit, I would look into b2b
they seem to know what they are doing... Ask for Katherine...

wow, I can`t believe it neither.  I almost sent them the money. Thank you so much to all of you.  I told those people that I have a problem to believing it.  I say to them that I can pay them the money but it has to be in the escrow account but they told me that because it is just a little amount so it doesn`t require an escrow account.  But the money that I`ll sent it to them is $14,000 and I don`t think that is a little amount.  So they told me they will meet with me instead but I told them I do not have the time and I will think about it.  That when I come to this site and ask is anyone of you to see if what you guy think about the site.  And I just find out that their site is suspense it.  And Wow.  Thank you so much to all of you again.

14,000 for what? To start business credit? 

Yes, Is a program it suppose to get me a croporate credit.  And it is something like this;

I will get:

Corporation Name: (5 yr shelf corporation to be provided)
State of Incorporation: _________________ (to be provided)
DUNS: _________________ (to be provided)
FED. TAX ID #: _____________( to be provided)

Anyway, They sent me an email today and I check their site again and it is now up again.  I don`t know what is going on.  But I really some help.

Can you guys tell me is this credible site?

http://www.corponefinancial.com/web/main.htm

 

 

Can someone give me opinion about that site.  I really help.

Greetings,

At the moment I am still investigating this outfit.  What I have found so far is as follows:

There`s an office in Dallas, TX (working on getting the address)

There`s an affiliate office in Philly - Contact Robert Erwin, Jr. with Corporate Funds & Financial Services - 267-318-6827 Dir - 215-549-0367 Bus. - 775-330-8337 Fax

There`s an affiliate office in Arizona - Contact Kitty Kat with Heavenz Financial Group - 760-952-7591

Another affiliate seems to be Giovanni Fleury - 954-433-1648

Dione has several other business entities, to include:

South American Brides - 281-751-8347
Bring Her To Me - Same as above

He also supposedly deals in the diamond, gold and gem stone market as a buyer/seller broker.

He is currently named as a defendant in two lawsuits in New York that I have been able to find:

Jewelry 47, Inc. v. Biegler et al - Breech of Contract - $7.5M
B.I.G. Jewelry Co., LLC v.Target Brands, Inc. et al - Intellectual Property Copyrights infringement

I have yet to find anyone that has been approved or received any type of positive service from this group.  Therefore, my suggestion to you and anyone else that may read this, be very careful in dealing with them.  Make sure that you get everything in writing and notarized with the owners signature (Dione Tillman) on it before you send any funds.  Also make sure that you can communicate with him directly and, if necessary, meet with him in person at any time.  There should never be a problem with setting up an escrow account with a neutral party to ensure your investment is protected and the deal is clean.

If anyone has further questions or concerns just let me know.  I have also retrieved several pictures of Dione that he has plastered all over the net if anyone is interested.

Peace

Right on,  Thank you so much.  Excellent detail for me and advice.  Sincerely thank you.

Hey pnaokay have you done any business with this company yet. I am also interested in getting corporate credit and they seem do have many options for obtaing funding up to $500,000. Please let me know ASAP.

As I posted previously, I have yet to find anyone that has gotten anything through this company and it is extremely difficult to get in touch with a live person.  From the numbers listed in my previous post, no one answers the phone.  I have checked the BBB in TX & CA and there is nothing listed for this company.  There is also nothing listed for this company under a corporation or LLC.  The parent company is Elohim Financial who has been registered in CA since 1987.

Because of the difficulties noted I would be very cautious in doing any business with them.  Do some research on the group called the 4.1.9.  It`s a very large and well connected organization based out of Nigeria.  Most of what you`ll find are the different types of letters that have been used to trick people into giving up there money.  However, there are many other scams this group uses that people aren`t aware of.  Just do a simple search for "419 scams" and you`ll see what I mean.

Another point to note is the unprofessional wording and mistakes found within their site and documents.  Minor mistakes are understandable on one or two pages but they have major errors on every page of their site and within their documents.  To have the capability that they project, one would think that they would also have the ability to obtain professionals to produce a high quality profile for themselves.

Just be careful.

Peace

Hello friend in the Startup Businness,

ELOHIM FINANCIAL IS UNPROFESSINAL! I CHOSE TO TAKE A CHANCE AND USE THEM FOR THIER NO CREDIT CHECK AUTO LEASES. THIS LEASE OFFERED FROM ELOHIM PROMISES TO GET YOU APPROVED WITH THIER BUSINESS TRADE LINES OF CORPORATE CREDIT, AND IN EXCHANGE YOU PAY THEM 20% DOWN ON THE LEASE, YOU ARE TO PAY HALF UP FRONT, AND THE OTHER HALF UPON ARRIVAL OF YOUR NEW CAR.  I PUT $6500.00 IN A BANK OF AMERCIA ACCOUNT, AND IT HAS BEEN A WEEK NOW, AND I HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT VERY POOR COMMUNICATION WITH THEM, AND LIES TO ME PROMISING ME THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED THE CAR.  I ASKED FOR PROOF OF PURCHASE OF MY CAR, AND THEY HAVE YET TO COME UP WITH IT.  THIER CONTACT IS NAMED DIONE TILLMAN.  DO NOT TRUST HIM WITH YOUR MONEY!!!   I ASKED FOR MY MONEY BACK WHEN I DID NOT LIKE HOW I COULD NEVER REALLY GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM IN REGUARDS TO MY AUTO LEASE, AND THEY REFUSED SAYING THAT I COULD PICK UP MY CAR ON 12/10/2007 IN TEXAS WHERE THERE SO CALLED OTHER Elohim OFFICE IS.  THIER BUSINESS PRACTIES ARE VERY QUESTIONBLE. I SAY DONT TRUST THEM , I PRAY THAT I GET THE CAR I REQUESTED OR MY MONEY OR I WILL HAVE TO REPORT THIER WEBSITE TO THE INTERNET CRIME, AND TO THE LOCAL POLICE. FOR RIGHT NOW, PLEASE EVERYONE DO NOT SEND ELOHIM FINANCIAL ANY MONEY.  THIER CONTACT DION TILLMAN CLAIMS HE IS OUT OF RANCHO CUCAMUNGA CA.  I DONT KNOW WHAT TO BELIVE WITH THIS DEAL.  I ALSO CONTACED BANK OF AMERCIA AS WELL TO PUT UP A RED FLAG.  DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS ON WHAT I CAN DO IF I NEED TO RECOVER MY MONEY, PLEASE ADVISE.

hey did you ever get your money back or a refund or the car from elohim, because i am thinking of thrying them

did you ever get a car or a refund, what happened with elohim financial

hey did you ever get your money back or a refund or the car from elohim, because i am thinking of thrying them

To what address did you send the money?  If you put it into a bank account, what bank and what account number?

To what address did you send the money?  You said you put it into a bank of america account.  Was that his account?  If so, what was the account number?

go and check him out at www.myspace.com/gringoparati   and u can tell ur self where ur money is going...

go to www.myspace.com/gringoparati  

I know I`m in the minority here but I had a smooth transaction with both of my vehicles with elohim financial.  Dionne Tillman was a bit gruff but he came through.  I don`t know what to tell the other posters here except to say I wish you the best of luck.  Just know it did work for at least one person.

A good evaluation of B2B at http://B2BCreditScam.com

These "Corporate Credit" companies are usually scams.  You pay thousands of dollars for services that you can do on your own for free or very low cost, and the "guaranteed" credit - is a prepaid Visa or Mastercard with your company name on it.  Loaded with some of the cash that you paid the Corporate Credit company.  Yes, it`s guaranteed - with your cash.  IT IS NOT a line of credit.  Again, this is something you can do for free or next to nothing.

You should **NEVER** have to pay someone to apply for corporate credit.  If your own bank won`t make a corporate loan or open a line of credit for you, then there`s a very strong message in that denial from professionals who see business plans every day.

You should **NEVER** have to pay someone to establish a corporation.  Depending on how complex your corporate structure is, you may have to pay a lawyer to make sure everything is legal.  You will have to pay corporation fees to your state and the state you incorporate in if they aren`t the same.  But you can file the paperwork yourself in most cases.

You can get your own Corporate ID from the US Dept of Social Security, and a DUNS number is also easy and cheap to get - if you even need one.  Which most small businesses
 don`t.   If you are a small, one-person business, then you can become an S-corporation quite easily.  Talk to your tax accountant.  If you have no employees, then you don`t need the Federal tax ID number.  You`ll use your SSN.

Good afternoon.

I am a Fraud Investigator for a major automotive lender and this thread came up during my investigation into Elohim Financial. In case there are unresolved questions regarding Elohim Financial I wanted to clarify that this is indeed a scam, 100%.

First of all, Elohim Financial does not own the vehicles they are leasing out, they con people into giving them the keys to their cars or lease them through lenders and decline to make any payments.

Elohim and Tillman`s MO is to take a substantial down payment from you, allow you to make a few payments on the vehicle which they do not forward on to the lender, and then they repo the unit using the spare key they didn`t give you so they can obtain another down payment from another "victim."

Eventually they attempt to wash the title to the vehicle and ship it to Mexico on covered transport where they sell it to a used car dealership, most likely one they are in business with. You can also easily tell that Dione Tillman is involved in numerous other scams.

Stay away from Dione Tillman, Maunee McKinney, Sassy Tillman, Keith McFadden, John McKinney, Elohim Financial, Merchant Service Providers and Steve Adler.

FROM LUXXLOUNGE. I POSTED IN THIS BLOG IN DEC 2007 THAT I PUT 6500.00 IN AN ELOHIM BANK OF AMERCIA ACCOUNT FOR HALF OF MY 20% DOWN PAYMENT ON A RANGE ROVER.  I NEVER GOT THE CAR, AND HAD POOR COMMUNICATION WITH DIONE TILLMAN FROM ELOHIM FINANCIAL.  I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT I GOT ALL OF MY 6500.00 BACK LESS THAN A MONTH AFTER I PLACED IT IN THIER BANK OF AMERICA ELOHIM  ACCOUNT. I TOLD DIONE TILLMAN THAT IF I DONT GET MY MONEY BACK THAT I WOULD REPORT HIM AND HIS COMPANY TO THE FBI FOR BANK WIRE FRAUD.  I WAS SPEAKING WITH DIONE TILLMANS SISTER SASSY TILLMAN THE ENTIRE TIME,  AND SHE OVERNIGHTED ME A CASHIERS CHECK FOR THE FULL AMOUNT.  YES, THE CHECK DID CLEAR . THE FRAUD INVESTIGATOR IS CORRECT, THIER ENTIRE BUSINESS IS A SCAM. DIONE IS ALSO INVOLVED WITH A MAIL ORDER BRIDE BUSIENSS. I DID MY OWN INVESTIGATION ON HIM AND HIS SALTY BUSINESS PRACTIES.  IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS HAS DEALINGS WITH HIM IN THE PAST AND STILL NEEDS TO RECOVER FUNDS, PLEASE CONTACT ME.  THESE LOSERS NEED TO BE PLACED IN JAIL, AND STOP STEALING FROM PEOPLE.

Good for you luxxlounge on getting your money back.

One of Dione`s bridal service websites...

www.bringhertome.com

yes thanks for posted this I sent them 9500 dollars and I havent any thing from them since they cut all there phones off  I sent them my money to they bank of america account and never recived any services what so ever please get back to me my email address is olabo83@yahoo.com  I really need my money back this made me very stress full and I lost alot please get back to me I spoke to guy name seth jonhson when I sent them elohim my money and now this guy seth have a web site  no money down on car leases also tryiing to scam people this guy dieon has my money please help me get back

hello jalexo7 can you send this lady sassy tillman number so I can call her I want my damm money back this people are scams dont every pay for any thing like this again I know I wont please send me her number

I sent them my money them 6,000 in november of 07 and I sent them 3,500 in february of 08  I still have my deposit slips for the money I deposit in there they account and I have never recived any thing at all so I want my money back feel free to email me also at olabo83@yahoo.com

Does anyone else have phone numbers or addresses they are willing to post up?

The only number I have left is 864-593-7989.  His name is Antonio Robinson and he supposedly was taking over the operation.  If you type in Elohim Financial or Corpone Financial now it will take you to a new site, "The Gospel of The Kingdom".  Since there is no contact information provided and the pricing is totally outrageous I believe this to be the same group.  They also have the same URL (ElohimFinancial.com) attached to the bottom of each page.  They also have the same countries listed as in all the other sites and businesses they`ve been involved in.

Just be careful and keep spreading the word about these idiots until someone stops them.

Peace

Parties	District Court	Judge	Type of Lawsuit	Cause of Action
January 24, 2008
Jewelry 47, Inc., v. Biegler, et al.,	CA Eastern		Other Contract	Breach of Contract
Plaintiff: Jewelry 47, Inc.; Defendant: Larry Biegler, Dione Tillman, Elohim Financial, Inc.
Jewelry 47, Inc., v. Biegler, et al.,	CA Eastern	England	Other Contract	Breach of Contract
Plaintiff: Jewelry 47, Inc.; Defendant: Larry Biegler, Dione Tillman, Elohim Financial, Inc.
September 24, 2007
Jewelry 47, Inc. v. Biegler et al	NY Southern	Crotty	Other Contract	Diversity-Breach of Contract
Plaintiff: Jewelry 47, Inc.; Defendant: Larry Biegler, Dione Tillman, Elohim Financial, Inc.

iam going to get this mother f**ker I sent him my money and did not receive what I paid for  his f**king sister sassy turn her phone I will pay some body to find them

and seth johson the mother f**ker that cant speak well

WOW... WOW...
IAMREADY!
PLEASE WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE.... I KNOW YOU`RE PISSED OFF... BUT THERE IS NO NEED FOR YOU TO GO THERE AND PASTE IT ALL OVER THE INTERNET...
BE CAREFUL...
DON`T FALL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE ONLINE... TRUE THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE GETTING AWAY WITH STUFF OUT THERE...
BUT JUST BE CAREFUL..

I am a skip tracer for a major auto company and we are also looking for these people. Another name associated with them is Mckinney. The family mostly resides in Riverside or Santa Monica all the addresses are mail drops. Sassy Tillman a.k.a Jan Brown, Cynthia Tillman,Sasha Brown. she has addresses in Tx and Az. I f anyone has any other info I am willing to share. 

Greetings,

I received a couple emails from Seth Johnson this week and this is the updated info for him and Elohim Financial;

Mr. Seth Johnson
Sobrine Inc
13455 Noel Road, Suite 1000
Dallas, TX 75240
Sales:  877-809-4801
Fax:  877-809-4815 
Email:  sjohnson@sobrine.com Do you need Corporate Lines of Credit/Loans, Shelf corps, Tax havens, Dun & Bradstreet, Letters of Credit or Real Estate Investing? Visit: www.sobrine.com

This is the link to their flyer:

Peace

Guardian,
I am glad you post that info on Sobrine,  I was referred to them by a friend and he just got his funding after 73 business days.  Being a minority here, Those guy @ Sobrine are not Elohim per my private investigators. I am doing my due diligent and looking for that D>>> Dione or D`son Tillman.

I disagree with you saying that Elohim and Sobrine are not one in the same. I have the information proving other wise. Also if ANYONE has had any dealings with them please leave me your contact information so that I can show you through black and white the actions of these people. Also if anyone wants to share their information with me, it will only assist in getting a return of your money as a civil suit is being generated. Also Ethical9111 leave your friends information that had a positive transaction with Sobrine, I am sure that it will not be posted because it has not happend.

any one having the contact information for Bruce Cain alleged fraud investigator,please contact stephen adler at merchantserviceproviders@yahoo.ca

please contact stephen adler at 604-556-3536

Dione Tillman is living in Miami, Florida under a variety of aliases, including "D'Anthony Latti." Elohim Financial is now called "Yashua Financial" with a fake storefront on 5th Street, South Beach. The Better Business people have given him an "F" rank. He has multiple aliases and bank accounts. He received a battery charge last month in Miami-Dade.