I`ve been following this thread for some time, and I`m definitely very excited about being a part of this venture. The one thing that has been on my mind is that we need a place that serves as a database or repository of the names of those of us who want to participate, along with all of our skills, resources and knowledge that we can offer. (Perhaps this is what rexiedexie software could do for us?)
This may even help define in which (if there are several) venture each person wishes to participate. For instance, the magazine idea sounds the most interesting to me as I could offer my writing, graphics design, and photography skills. However, I have an interest in marketing, so contributing to any of the ideas would be a great opportunity.
I`d like to hear others ideas, but I`m thinking this database of everyone with their contributing skills is essential before we get too much involved as we can use it to help establish teams that can work together for given tasks.
Count me in!
Secondly, I wish to address the post by CreativeGal where she too expressed interest in RexieDexie software.
I think I need to clarify this; while I am interested to see what RexieDexie`s software can do for us, my main desire is to have a concise list of all involved, what skills they can and want to offer, and figure out how to establish the most effective teams for various tasks.
I have created a simplified Access db using the list that frndchps posted and added info from each person`s profile (Industry and What I Do) so that we can get a better idea of each member.
By the way, this list was not intended to replace frndchps` list, only to supplement it, and was mainly created to satisfy my own curiosity. I will be glad to share this list with the group and point leaders whenever everyone wants to see it, and I realize that I might be jumping the gun here as we need to select our point leaders first.
I will go out on a limb and suggest that creative girl also starts the second project... a version of the magizine program.
While I appreciate the idea, I want to make sure we get the best people and the best business idea(s). I will be glad to contribute to any project (magazine or otherwise), however, I have to make it clear that my background is not in business and I think there are others in the group that might be better suited for such a task.
(Thinking BIG, but realistically as well!)
VOTE VOTE VOTE!
Just wanted to remind everyone of the Point Leader Poll, Vote Now!
I`m going to present something here, and if you want me to make a poll for it, I`ll be glad to do so. We`ve had various discussion here concerning privacy for communicating, keeping up with members, having a secure database, sending email (to various people at one time)etc. I looked around today and found some database ideas so that as soon as we select point leaders, we can begin looking at WHO can do what (along with all the other things we have to figure out).
Well, after a great deal of time with a few options, I came back to my first conclusion...we should be using Yahoo Groups. I am presenting this idea because it is an easy and fast solution. We can make the group private, have polls, files, and databases where each person can update their own information. We can easily assign Moderator rights to anyone when they need it. Only those we invite will know about the group and be able to join.
Whenever a more sophisticated solution is available, we can switch to it immediately. The downside is that we will be outside of the SuN Community website; We can think of it as a supplement to SuN, not a replacement. However, the advantages (immediate advantages I might add) are very strong. It`s something that we can begin using NOW!
I have just created a group that we can use (or we can create a new one...makes no difference to me) if everyone can agree it`s a go...at least until something better comes along.
(If you would like to join the group I have created to take a look at it before deciding, please send me a private message and I`ll send you an invitation)
If you have not already done so, please make your vote for point person!
I`d like to bring up another point that comes out of MMs message. I agree that we need to stay focused and we get off track a bit. For this reason, I am wondering if it is possible (or would even be valuable) to move the poll to close earlier?
It seems like we are in a "waiting mode" right now. So then, while we`re "waiting" and "not getting off focus", what are we actually supposed to be "doing" or more accurately, "discussing". (sorry for all the annoying quotes).
Most people that want in this venture check the site daily and hopefully have voted. Anyone who as not yet voted, please raise your hand!! Sorry, I`m being so silly today, but it`s a festive day, and my creative mind is hungry for some action.
What do you guys think about moving the poll up? Can the poll date even be changed? Just my 2 cents for the day...er hour!
This is off topic, but I`m wondering if such a move for politics into the YouTube world could also mean legislation on free speech and content? There`s already talk of using "Fairness Doctrine" against talk radio so that "the other side gets to have their say". Can you imagine such a push on You Tube or any other internet site?
Sorry for the off topicness.
I like the 7 series, 10, 22, and 27, but there are SO many great ideas in the list. I think 22 might be my favorite because it gives everyone the chance to have a stake in the business. When it comes time for a vote, can we have the option of voting for more than one choice?? Not sure if this could mess up the results (giving some ties), but if not, would be good. There are so many great ideas!
Very well said Denise!
You’ve offered details that we each need to consider. For those of us who are not yet sure where/how we will fit into the venture, it’s a wake-up call to do our homework and be prepared when the time comes for our input/involvement. I, for one, have answered some of these questions in my own mind, but have yet to write them down.
I would also like to stress your points concerning:
Identify your skills and expertise
Update your StartupNation profile
I recommend that every person that has expressed an interest in joining the venture complete their profile. Everyone has interests and everyone can do something (most likely many things) well. If you can’t think of anything to add to these categories, it’s time for some self-reflection! Perhaps you can ask those around you for feedback to get you started. (Please feel free to PM me if you would like a brainstorming buddy.)
I also personally like when people fill in their location (including city). There have already been several members in the SuN community that have had the luxury to meet in person. Face-to-face interaction, when available, can be a valuable source of collaboration and encouragement.
I would also like to add one more suggestion. Perhaps to encourage a little "participant accountability", we each begin contributing (at least weekly?) to the One Thing I Will Accomplish Today thread. I have been thinking about joining this thread for a while, but was hesitant...thinking that I had no value to add to it. But if you think about it, the true value of accountability is to encourage others, and allow them to encourage you, to stay focused.
I`m kind of there with Eric (welcome back, by the way) as I`ve been following the thread to see how it evolves and where my participation is needed.
Mitey, I think you`re idea of a "DO OVER" is a good direction for this project as we`re still not all focused on the same thing at the same time. Of course, having this many people, it`s hard for everyone to always be exactly on the same wavelink, but perhaps a Time Out whistle is in order, and then a Do Over.
I want to address several things already brought up in this thread and under some of the Heads Up threads. Craig L mentioned in one thread about accounting for all our skill sets in the group and I think this is paramount. Denise has reminded us to do our homework and to think about what processes need to be in place, and Ross mentioned some concern over people offering their own business interests into the mix.
While I personally don’t see an immediate problem (number 3 in my suggest list can address this later on) with people offering their own resources or businesses, (I realize we are taking business submissions at this time…so I can see the reasoning), I’m wondering if we have skipped a step somewhere.
It seems to me that we to take care of some necessities before we can choose a business:
The very first thing we need to figure out is available technology for administrative things: A dedicated area for all Venture posts (it’s getting hard to keep up with them even with them all being under PepRally), A secure place to collectively discuss business ideas away from public eyes, and a database for collecting info about each participant and their skills.
Once we can collect each person’s skill set, interests, and level of expertise, every person should be recruited into appropriate teams that they can collaborate with throughout the business creation (and implementation) process.
And as Denise has mentioned, we also want to make sure people are aware of each other’s work styles so they are involved in the most effective teams possible. Along this same line, she has also mentioned creating teams for various business ventures as some people will be interested in working on some business ideas (and with certain people) and not others.
Examples of the types of teams we need: Accounting, Attorneys, Marketing, Public Relations, Computer Programming, Process Management, Fundraising, Graphics Design.
Some teams would overlap in some ways, such as Graphics Design people would be closely linked to Marketing.
Collecting data of all available skillsets will allow us to see what teams we can develop from these skills.
Some people in the group may not see the importance of setting up processes for our venture. While we don’t want to get bogged down in useless procedures, a process management team (with people that have experience with this) would be helpful for keeping everything on track. Once this team is in place, they can work on the necessary processes to help those that need them. If someone is a high-energy go-getter, they may not need processes to go forward, however, for those of us that need them, the processes will help keep us focused.
Here is the bottom line of my suggestions:
We need teams in place before we can move forward and choose an exact business! For example: If we want to do something technical, we need technical/computer programming teams in place to discuss our ideas and report back to us the viability of these ideas. We need the Attorneys in place to give us Council as we develop our business.
I think asking all questions to the group as a whole and getting a string of answers from various people (even if it’s good advice) is not focused or productive. We need to develop teams FIRST so we can go to them as one source for answers and ideas that come up along the way.
So, if we’re thinking big and someone says, “Let’s create something big like YouTube or MySpace,” we can go to our various teams and found out how to make each part work. Such teams can tell us exactly the facts we need and how to proceed.
I`ve been out of pocket the last few days and it`s great to see all the discussions taking place. For now, I`m fairly open to all the discussed ideas. I am currently doing my own homework and research on the side and will share with the group what I find very soon.
Congrats Glutten Man..oops Gluten Man!!
Welcome to all the new members!!
Now that we have chosen our idea(s), it`s time to get down to work. (OK, Mighty Might deserves her much needed sleep as she`s been working very hard to bring us to where we are now).
But after everyone is well rested and ready to get down to business, it`s important for those of us interested in research, processes, team building, and so on, to start heading in that direction.
I`ve started The Latest Scoop thread as a place for sharing info on what works, lessons learned from others, and a place to see what else is going on in Community-Based Business. Our biggest question right now is: Can We Really Create A Business Together?
Let`s look at how the process works and how we can guarantee its success.
Please check out The Latest Scoop as I have copied the list Frndchps started (it had gotten lost in the shuffle). I`m also doing a side project to help build teams so that everyone gets an opportunity to offer their participation when the real work begins.
The top 3 idea leaders are gathering their teams to shape their ideas for presentation to Jeff.
I vaguely remember hearing this mentioned on your podcast. Can you elaborate? Will Jeff "choose" a project to back? I`m not meaning to jump the gun here, but would like clarification. I may have missed something somewhere.
Can we create a business together? This is something I addressed (under The Latest Scoop) a couple weeks ago, but my research did not get much notice.
We have now followed much the same fate as The Business Experiment.
We need processes (now being discussed by some), teams (with competent, passionate members), and expert leaders. I have now completed the Skills and Interest Survey, and will be contacting all 100 people on the list to see if building teams can jump start all those that said they wanted to participate.
Lessons Learned from The Business Experiment*
The Business Experiment [TBE] was based on a Peer Production or Wisdom of Crowds model.
The Business Experiment [TBE] was based on a Peer Production or Wisdom of Crowds model.
Some of the most successful community-driven projects are the exception instead of the rule. Linux, for example, is driven forward by a handful of excellent individuals with passion for the project.
Altruism, sharing, and group decision making is sexy. But is Web2.0 really just a bubble?
*Information copied/summarized with permission.
I'm new to the community and quite impressed with the inspiration I see here, most specifically under this post heading. Whomever thought of this idea certainly gets recognition from me.
I have no idea when this post was created or if the community has collectively taken action, but i have the business model and the vision and I'm willing to share it.
I say let's do this and create jobs for our communities in the process. I'm very serious
about this and can be contacted directly if we have some believers on board.
Where I'm @:
See my post header: New Innovative Start-Up
Let's make this happen. In the process startupnation will be in the headlines.