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    • 1 posts
    April 22, 2010 8:04 AM EDT

    Hi,

    As with any company you do business with you should check them out first.  I have been in this business for 15 years and have seen most of the tricks.

    Read my article about this.

    http://www.waisite.com/blog/2010/02/19/watch-out-for-bad-search-engine-optimization-seo-companies/

    Tom

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    • 990 posts
    December 6, 2008 7:13 AM EST

    My experience, as told to me by my clients, is that most [if not nearly all] "internet marketing" and "SEO" services end up being snake oil - no matter how slick the website looks like.  They promise the moon and do not deliver.

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    • 990 posts
    December 6, 2008 7:45 AM EST
    my comments are not limited to WRITTEN promises that end up being lies.

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    James Lindon, Ph.D. Patent Attorney
    Lindon & Lindon, LLC
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
    [this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
    Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
    "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
    http://www.LindonLaw.com

    • 990 posts
    December 9, 2008 3:56 AM EST
    when i type in "Cleveland Ohio Patent Attorney" in Yahoo, only two lawyers show up ahead of me.  true, there are other links for "find a job" etc.   if somebody is looking for a patent attorney, they will easily find me.  Paying somebody thousands of dollars to get "optimized" won`t help much, if at all.
     

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    James Lindon, Ph.D. Patent Attorney
    Lindon & Lindon, LLC
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
    [this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
    Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
    "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
    http://www.LindonLaw.com

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    July 13, 2012 5:15 AM EDT

    Thanks for this post.....very helpful! 

     

     

    Thanks

    Buckeyeads.com 

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    May 24, 2013 12:44 PM EDT

    SEO doesn't happen overnight. It takes quality content writing, backlink building, optimized keywords, social media marketing, clean semantic code, and so on. You can't just expect to hire an SEO company and expect to be at the top of page 1 in a week. If you could then everyone would be at the top of page one, and that's not possible. It is an ongoing process that never stops. Everyone is fighting for the top spot. 

    If you want to invest in online marketing try using a Google Adwords agency like 

    Market Media

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    July 11, 2009 9:49 AM EDT
    We can now list your business on Bing.com!
     
     
     
    Am I missing something here? It`s ridiculously easy for businesses to list themselves on Bing or any other search engine. Why do they need your services?
     
    David Jackson
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    July 25, 2009 1:32 PM EDT
    If you want you can try, like an affiliate kind of scheme with me where if the traffic is converted to sale and that traffic is through you, i pay you a commission in cash usually about 10% flat. 

    In this way i will not be out of pocket if nothing is delivered but i will pay you if you deliver on results.
     
     
     
     
    That`s a lousy deal on two fronts! First of all, there isn`t a legitimate SEO consultant on the planet who can guarantee sales. Second, there`s no guarantee that you will actually pay the commission.
     
    David Jackson
    DavidJackson7/25/2009 7:16 PM

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    July 26, 2009 12:51 PM EDT
    What makes you so sure you will get your salary at the end of the month? You employer can just leave you hanging.
     
    What makes you so sure you bank is operating and has not filed chp11 at the end of the month?
     
     
     
    When it comes to my finances, I protect myself on all fronts. First of all, I`m self-employed and I always get my consultants fee upfront. Second, my bank is federally insured by the FDIC. Third, I don`t put all my eggs in one basket. I use more than one bank.
     
    David Jackson

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    July 26, 2009 12:59 PM EDT
    Unless your name has Berkshire Hathaway in it, I do not think any reputable SEO firm will accept your offerings.
     
    The skeleton of your proposal is lethal on all levels.
     
     
     
     
    I couldn`t agree more. Like I said before, it`s a lousy deal.
     
    David Jackson
    DavidJackson7/27/2009 3:06 PM

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    • 2 posts
    May 7, 2013 2:13 PM EDT
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    May 7, 2013 2:13 PM EDT

    On May 7th I talked to Rick Davidson at 3:30pm. He stated He was going to put our phone call everywhere online for all my customers to see forever. That this is his law. That he is going to send the the police, a  federal agency after me file a small claims in CA. That I was doing tons of illegal activity by posting reviews online. When I said I would like to resolve this matter and take down my reviews if He gives us back our $298.00 and cancels our contract. He said I was bribing him. That I was scum and he is going to ignore that I would stop to that level. That It was illegal for me to even ask that. He said I have low morals He sees people like me on the side of the freeway everyday. That I was part the topic of an hour and a half meeting last Thursday with 150 people.

    It all started when I received a phone call in November of 2012. The gentleman calling claimed he was with the Google Company. He told me that by receiving his phone call,  I could pay $150.00 to be on the front page of Google. I was excited and told him that Google is an amazing company with marketing opportunities for our small business. I had placed many businesses ads on Google previously but was under the impression that Google does not allow you to pay to be on their front page. I asked him about this and was assured that it was possible but only with his (this) phone call. I told him my Husband and I were very interested. However, our small business is seasonal and was about to shut down for the winter. I asked if I could save his number and call for the same opportunity in the spring. He replied that he was not certain we could still get on Google in the spring, but to call back and try. Being on the front page of Google sounded like a great opportunity for us, so when March rolled around I told my Husband to call. My husband called and started the sign up process with whom he believed to be Google. My husband said that while signing him up for the Google deal they told him the department was called EGumball. The price had also changed to $298.00 with a year contract of $150.00. They told my husband that our business would be advertised everywhere online (Google, Bing, ). While signing up my husband Nate told the sales rep we do not accept 800 numbers and we would have to call them back to finalize our setup as we needed to provide additional information for the setup process. The sales rep assured him that was fine. My husband had not provided a location at that time. We park our trucks in a lot and needed to locate an address being that our lot has no physical mailing address. My husband Nate called back a few days later to provide Google/Egumball with a business address. Google/Egumball explained that the next step was a post card from Google and Bing. He thanked them, hung up and we waited for the post card which never arrived.

     On April 10th I called myself and spoke with Elaine. Elaine was very rude and uncooperative. She explained that Tiffany (myself) can not talk on behalf of this account because I am not on the contract. I told her I understood and prefer not to be added. To proceed with the conversation and discuss the contract, I called my husband Nate on three way. Elaine would not allow either myself or Nate to speak much at all. She stated that everything was our fault because they had not been able to call and verify our business. Nate told her that he had informed them during sign up that we do not accept 800 numbers on our business line. He also explained that he had been told to call back and had done so. He informed Elaine that we were now waiting on the next step, the post card from Google and Bing. Elaine talked over us saying repeatedly that "it does not matter because we have a contract and need to pay."  Nate asked to talk to her manger she said she "would put in for a ticket with Josh to call us back". She said Josh would call us in 24 to 48 hours. We are still waiting for his call. Nate also asked her why their company had taken our money before finalizing the setup and working out the details? Elaine said that we have received their services by talking to her on the phone and emails. She kept putting us on hold and hanging up on us during this conversation. When the call finally ended, I did some research on Egumball. What I found online was appalling to me. There were many complaints, negative feedback, and even customers talking about taking them to court for similar issues. It seems they call claiming to be Google and take your money without providing any services at all.

    On April 26th Nate and I called again to attempt to receive services and or resolve our issues. We spoke with Kate who at 10:33 am hung up on Nate & I. We called back and she said she had personally called us previously and "some women had answered and hung up on her". I am certain that this did not happen. It is a rare occasion that I ever answer the phones and everyone else involved in our business is male. So once again, I find this company lying to me. My husband Nate also has never received a phone call from her. Kate told us that they never said they were google to look at our contract I told her that I would love to but have not received anything from EGumball. She told us she can not send another contract or talk to us about it until it is brought out of collections. She gave me the name of the collection agency as Caine & Weiner.

    After speaking with Kate, I called the collection agency Caine & Weiner. They had no records of Nates account. I called Kate back and told her I was trying to do my own mediation and I was willing to pay her the $298.00 for services we never received and end our agreement with EGumball. I told her that I no longer trust or wish to do business with them. I told her that I do not feel that I should be liable for a contract I have never seen and if it does exist I believe they they broke the "contract" first by not listing our business online in 30 days as promised. Kate said no to my offer and assured me that I can not go through Utah resolution. She said I have to go through american arbitration association as stated in our contract.  She told me our contract also states that if I want to go to small claims that it will have to be in the state of California. . I called CA courts but couldn't talk to anyone due to budget cuts. Kate also said she would wave the month of May if we paid that day. I have called the American Arbitration Association and they are very expensive. It would cost us $700.00 to start a case and another $1000.00 for paper work and fees. The entire contract with Egumball is less than this amount..

    In the mean time, Utah resolution has clued and left several messages an a letter to EGumball with no response.

     I understand that my husband is the person listed on their contract. However he is a Police Officer, Small business owner and currently enrolled in collage full time. I do not need him worrying about or getting caught up in this scam. I would like to resolve it myself if possible.


    I feel this business should be shut down and that they are a complete scam.
    They broke our so called "contract" first with no services in the first 30 days. Why should we paying them for no services?
    I have had horrible customer service been lied to, hung up on, and put on hold with no warning.
    They refuse to compromise.
    They will not hear our side and just demand money for non services.

    1- Claimed to be google in Nov, 2012.  Claimed you could pay Google to be on the front page by phone call invite only.

    2- I told our sales rep our business address and she was confused. They also had my name wrong.  Elaine said it was because there are to many departments.

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    April 15, 2009 3:04 PM EDT

    Just some info for anyone looking to use egumball.  I purchased the service and the thing is, they make you a landing page and get you and Google page 1.  That is their big promise, just be aware, that they are not talking about the Organic area, they are talking about the Google Maps part, which is great because that is at the very top!  Here`s the problem.  That`s Free from Google!!!  All you have to do is register your website with them, they follow-up with a 30 second phone call and you`re there.  If you are going to optimize your site, search locally and hire someone in your community who might refer a customer to you.  It`s silly to spend $250 and then $99/mo so egumball makes you a weak landing page and registers you with google.  Registering with google is very simple.  But if you have no idea what you are going and no resources locally to help you.  They will register you and they will get you to the top of the list of names on google maps.  I just didn`t think it was worth it.  It`s not a hoax...just over-rated.

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    November 20, 2008 1:06 PM EST
    What the chance of this... i was actually looking for them!  Yeah, oddly enough eGumBall is actually a company that knows their biz.  I was with them for nine months and ranking.  I was getting sales calls not a huge amount but calls so I thought my company could do better.  This is where problems started. 
     
    I recieved a call from another "SEO" company that said they can do what eGumBall does and less than 1/5th the price.  Feeling robbed I dropped eGumBall and went with the "other" company only to find out that they couldn`t even get me to page three. 
     
    I can tell you eGumBall is a real quite company.  They do not call you to give you the whole up-sell thing... "need more money"..
     
    Thanks for the link... I am giving them a shout. 
     
    Do you know if they are Eastern Time or Pacific Time?
     
     
    MannyPaul11/28/2008 2:31 AM
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    December 29, 2008 12:48 PM EST
    I was prospecting clients and came across someone in Denver using them - first time I heard of anyone.  They seemed satisfied with them...  I`m an Internet Marketing Consultant for LiveDeal, Inc. we are the best at keyword marketing converting clicks into jobs/clients.  We are Certified by Google to reseller Adwords and have hired the best technical minds creating relevant keyword campaigns giving you a high quality score with Google and guarantee traffic.  I think that sums it up pricing starts at $150.00 monthly guaranteed min. of 50 unique visitors (fixed price at $3.00).  Jeff - 800-977-6038 ext. 2854
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    February 9, 2012 11:00 AM EST

    Thanks for the insight though and will check them out.  Always looking for new business relationships.  If you are difficulty with starting, operating or growing your business, you may want to check out our FREE entrepreneur guide as to today`s web 2.0 world.

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    July 18, 2011 3:24 PM EDT

    Google Places and Local Internet Marketing is really easy to do. I wrote a book about the subject not too long ago.


    I sell it to other internet marketing consultants, and Local SEO Service providers.

    My face is on my website. So I really have nothing to hide.

    My logo is in the pic above for branding reasons.

    Really... paying $199 a month is really cheap for that service. Considering the average 4x6 weekly ad is $500+ and the amount of repeat targeted customers you will receive. Especially if you have a high ticket average per customer... It's really a no brainer.

    So I am sure they have a lot of clients at eGumball. Sometimes it can be daunting to track so many clients. Not only that. But following the 80/20 rule of life... When you have that many  clients you are going to make some of them mad. It doesn't matter how perfect your service is.

    If you are interested in Full Service Video Marketing, Social Media Marketing, Local Internet Marketing, Mobile Media Marketing, QR Codes and Local SEO all under one roof. Feel free to visit my site... I do one on one consultations for free and we can even speak face to fave via skype or screen share.

    With our Tucson based company you will receive personal service with a direct line to the owner at any time day or night. Some times the Costco approach to local internet marketing while cost effective, can be limiting.

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    May 29, 2011 8:00 AM EDT

    Thanks for the insight though and I will check them out. :)

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    June 10, 2011 1:20 AM EDT

    Thanks for the insight though and will check them out.  Always looking for new business relationships. :)

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    May 4, 2009 9:20 AM EDT
    After doing some research, I am going to side with egumball in this forum.  All the information stated by egumball in this forum is correct and informative.  I reviewed the egumball.com website and the "application" and it does state line placement is not guaranteed - which to me shows that they are acting on the up and up. 
     
    I do not think egumball is misleading anyone and the replies posted by them should indicate that they are not avoiding any issue here.  Their answers are very straight forward and to the point.
     
    One bit of advice to egumball.  You have done a great job in answering every question about your business which should prove up your service.  If I were you, I would step back from answering any other question that threatens your integrity and limit your responses to anything constructive about our industry.
     
    I hope this encourages more positive responses about your business.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    • 3 posts
    December 8, 2008 6:55 AM EST
    What does the map listing on Google have to do with your web site? As far as I can see there are 10 agents in my town on that listing and I know that at least 2 of them have never entered anything in to it and they are on it. And 3 more of the agents don`t even have a website and they are listed in it. 

    You say that you cant have two listings on Google with the same phone number....but what if you have two offices as I do.  Both my offices use the same 800 number....you are saying that Google would penalize me for that? 



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    December 8, 2008 7:38 AM EST
     Search "insurance schenectady" on Google.  Two of the listings that appear go to corporate websites, one of them doesn`t even have a website, and two of the agents are my friends and they have never set up anything with anyone.
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    December 8, 2008 9:30 AM EST
    I am an insurance agent...not an Seo person....none of that makes sense to me.
    SuperS2008-12-8 15:32:35
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    July 13, 2012 4:15 PM EDT

    I don't know how the service, but the name makes me smile!Laughing

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    December 17, 2009 5:44 PM EST

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