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bert

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Sep 10, 2008 1:37 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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DipLady, what you said in your last paragraph about selling through multiple channels was what I thought might be the driving force for how you were handling shipping costs at your web site.  I just did not agree with your original statement, that all people today expect to pay for shipping and handling.  Amazon, eBay, Wal-Mart and many other giants are spending millions to change that concept and things are changing.

 

One thing for sure, I do totally agree that free shipping is not the best for all retailers.  And it should not be done without a lot of thought.  In fact, I tend to notice most of our customers use flat rate shipping more than free shipping.  In contrast, I have also noticed several companies that have found using flat rate and occasionally mixing free shipping for promotions have yielded in larger than expected sales increases nearly every time.  Companies are reporting this nationally.  This can also be seen by visiting informational sites like InternetRetailer and looking at their press releases and studies.

 

Just to clarify my previous comments.  I understand your shipping methods are a modified version of a flat rate system which we both agree is one good way to increase sales.  The only issue I see is your charts for shipping cause the buyer to spend a lot of time discovering the fact that you are offering them a deal.   I also feel that if they scan your shipping information page and do not read it carefully, they might mistakenly think buying more increases their shipping cost.  You are relying on visitors to do the math and read the page carefully.  These are not the habits of most Internet visitors.  This is why I suggested what I did originally, just as one idea to combat this issue.  Not necessarily because it was right for your business.  I was trying to say keep the savings message simple.  Another approach to address this issue might be accomplished by adding an additional column on your shipping info page to show just how much they save by buying more.  Then there is no math necessary.  I have always been a strong supporter of keeping the message simple and easy to find.  One other idea might be as simple as saying, “Buy multiple packs and save on shipping!”

 

I hope I made myself clearer this time and my rambling on helps you sell even more.  Your site has made me hungry, so I am off to lunch…

 



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Bert at Harvey Software, Inc.
Multi-Carrier Shipping Software and Supply Chain Solutions for Internet Retailers

Also a provider of free shipping information and resources at Harvey Software`s Parcel Shipping Blog along with free tracking solutions at TrackingPage.com...
DipLady

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Sep 10, 2008 2:59 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Bert, you were fine, I thought it might clear things up as to why we handle it the way we do with the avenues of sales that we have, and, maybe offer some options for others considering how to handle these expenses. 
 
I do appreciate your comments on making it easier for the customer to figure the shipping and will be taking a look at that. We are in the process of re-designing our website and these comments are GREAT!
 
P.S. I tend to ramble too, it is not always easy to say everything you want to in these posts!!! and keep it short. . .LOL, or always sound . .. hmmm, shall we say happy?
Cookie

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Sep 20, 2008 5:51 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Because we have 3 avenues of sales, craft/trade shows, retail stores we wholesale to, and, our website, I like to keep the cost of my products the same. We sell the mixes at the same prices via all 3 avenues of sales. If we are at a craft show and someone says "how do I get more", I direct them first to the nearest store selling our product and then to the website to either check what upcoming shows we will be at, or to order online. They know if they can get it at a store or a craft show, they will avoid the shipping, but, there are many that need things immediately or just want the ease and convenience of ordering online.

Hi DipLady,
I also have 3 avenues of sales:  garden walks, retail stores & website.  But am I understanding you right that you charge let`s say $3.50/package of dip at a craft/trade
show, on the internet & to retailers?  The retailer would have to at least double the cost so why would a customer go there to purchase?  It seems that even with S&H, it would be more cost effective to buy on line than to go to a bricks & mortar for your product.  What
do your retailers think of this?
 
I`m curious because pricing is always something I`ve grappled with.  On my website the cost, with shipping, is always at least a little higher than what most retailers charge.  My
garden walks are in towns where I don`t have a retailer.   I charge what most retailers carrying WEDGIE in other places charge. 
 
Always interested in alternative ways of pricing.
Ciao,
 
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DipLady

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Sep 22, 2008 11:37 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hey Cookie, how are you doing?
 
We do not sell the packs for the "sell" cost "to" retailers, they purchase at a reduced wholesale rate which in turn allows them to resell from their stores at the same rate that we offer the mixes via craft shows and on our website. This gives no one any competition over the other.
 
Hope this helps clear that up and helps you out!
bert

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Sep 22, 2008 2:03 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Cookie, 

I went to your web site and I was wondering, why are you charging for shipping and handling?  Why not just keep it simple and say your product costs $16.00 including FREE shipping and handling?  Physiologically this is more appealing to a potential customer.  In addition, I think you should also offer two for say, $30.00 including FREE shipping and handling.  I will bet your shipping costs will not increase by much (if at all) when they buy two and you will receive the profit from selling two Wedgies without upsetting your dealers by under cutting them.   This sounds like a product that would make a good gift and if you offered a two product deal, someone buying one might buy another for a friend at the same time.  Just a thought…

Bert

 



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Bert at Harvey Software, Inc.
Multi-Carrier Shipping Software and Supply Chain Solutions for Internet Retailers

Also a provider of free shipping information and resources at Harvey Software`s Parcel Shipping Blog along with free tracking solutions at TrackingPage.com...
Cookie

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Sep 23, 2008 3:17 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Dip Lady,
Ahhhh, I understand now.  I price a little differently.  The cost on my website is a bit higher than at retail stores or my garden walk booths once S&H is added on.  I do that to keep my retailers happy.  Whatever works!
 
And Bert, it`s a thought but I`m afraid the price of WEDGIE would then seem too high.
 
I`m off to Oregon tomorrow to take my daughter to school.  Will revisit the idea when I`m back.
 
Ciao,
bert

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Sep 23, 2008 11:58 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Cookie, 

 

I think your fear is totally unfounded but not uncommon among many Internet retailers. 

 

Forget about the price of your product verses your resellers for a minute and let’s consider gas at $3.50 - $4.?? per gallon and going up.  Just going to one of your retailers and back to my home could cost me well over $50.00 in gas alone!  Looking at your dealer list, I think you are really limiting your market’s potential size.  I also think adding shipping costs for a single item just complicates the buying decision.  Keep the buying decision simple!  I don’t always think free shipping is the best idea but in your case you should be using FREE shipping to close the deal rapidly.  On top of that you should offer a special for volume purchases along with FREE shipping.  This will increase the number of Wedgies they buy.  If you do it right and your resellers will not care about your pricing since it is higher and your sales will increase because you have increased your market size and customer convenience.  Not a bad thing, so what is there to fear?

 

On another note, I think you should seriously consider easier ways to buy Wedgies at your site, like adding the ability to use a merchant account like Google Checkout or one of the others out there.  Merchant accounts are very cheap these days and they make it easy for people to make purchases.  I know this is off the subject of this post but I like to see SuN members sell a ton of product and I think this too is limiting your market and sales significantly.

 

Make these two changes and I will bet your sales will go up even if your price is more than your resellers.  I hope this helps and good luck selling Wedgies!

 

Bert

 



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Bert at Harvey Software, Inc.
Multi-Carrier Shipping Software and Supply Chain Solutions for Internet Retailers

Also a provider of free shipping information and resources at Harvey Software`s Parcel Shipping Blog along with free tracking solutions at TrackingPage.com...
THMBJINC

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Nov 06, 2008 9:36 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Wanted to thank everyone for your response one my topic of shipping charges.
 
 
THMBJINC

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