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malloc

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Dec 15, 2007 12:44 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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All,

 

I wanted to provide easy, distributed training (Orientation, Policies, Procedures, etc) for employees. I found a few “Do It Yourself” web-based tools but all were expensive (at least to my way of thinking). So I wrote my own online training framework that allows me to create a module, with one or more lessons. An assessment can be added at each lesson level and at the Module level. It is simple (HTML / CSS based). The training units are easy to create and maintain and assessments are scored automagically.

 

I realized that there might be a market for a low-end, web-based, Do-It-Yourself training tool (especially for home-schoolers and small businesses). With two – to - three weeks effort I could transform this into a commercial web-based product. The plan would be to host it on my own servers so that clients would only need a web-browser to create and serve training. Unlike other available tools I would allow the client to create and re-use attendee accounts and training modules. The product would have a yearly subscription fee based on level:  (1-10 attendees, 11-50 attendees and so on) and up to “n” (50 to 100) active training modules (meaning you could delete attendees or modules and reuse the slot for each with out incurring additional cost).

 

My question to you is would you (as a small business owner) be interested in such a product, and what would you be willing to pay for such a product?

 

Thank you,

 

David

 
stonesledge

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Dec 15, 2007 1:12 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi David, is there any way we could have a peak so that we can answer that question better. It sounds promising and I and others may be interested.
Erin


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CraigL

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Dec 15, 2007 1:59 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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How does your concept differ from this application, where you convert a PowerPoint presentation to Flash? (link)
malloc

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Dec 16, 2007 2:04 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Erin,

I should have anticipated this request better . So... I went ahead and quickly created a site and ported a section of one of my internal training units to the site. You can find it at TrainingCanvas.com . What you will find is a training module with one leson and an assessment. As I said above I would need to spend about 2 ~ 3 weeks to create a simple to use interface so that clients could create their own attendee lists, modules and run reports on assessments. So the section that allows you to create modules does not exist yet. I currently use notepad which I expect would be inappropriate for most users . I look forward to your feedback.
 
David
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Dec 16, 2007 2:16 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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How does your concept differ from this application, where you convert a PowerPoint presentation to Flash? (link)
 
Good question. I was not aware of this product. It looks interesting. How would my product differ? In several ways:
  1. The application is question is software that will need to be installed and maintained. My product will be web-based and only require a web-browser. Updates to my product would be automatic, transparent and free.
  2. The application in question is more expensive than what I had in mind (especially for the first tier pricing).
  3. The application in question would require you to re-create and re-distribute a lesson set if you made any changes. My product can be changed on the fly - users would only need to hit the "Refresh" button to see the latest version of a client`s unit.
  4. The application is question requires a knowledge of MS Powerpoint and presumbably some knowledge of flash. My product would require nothing other than basic typing and mouse skills.
I could probably find other differences if I downloaded their 30 day free trial version.
 
Thanks Craig,
 
David
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Dec 16, 2007 6:39 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Okay, I`m thinking this is the start of brilliant! :-D First question I had was about images, which you can do.

Now, the BIG question is whether or not this entire presentation can be sort of "embedded" within a Web page on a site. Not literally so, but run in a kind of smaller window?

If so, it could potentially make setting up product demos a lot easier, depending on the user interface.

I guess what I`m saying is perhaps to step back from calling it a "training" application, even if only in your mind, and considering it as a "demo" application. Not so many small businesses need training events, they need to show and tell about a product that isn`t naturally compatible with static pictures. See?
CraigL2007-12-16 18:41:9
stonesledge

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Dec 16, 2007 7:59 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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David,
I think what you created is absolutely wonderful, and amazingly fast. I like the simplicity of it and the end quiz. I think that this application should be built out further maybe calling it something with training and demos where companies, educators and  others can easily and affordably construct demos and training material. I am excited to see where you go with this and agree, being able to embed into we pages for users would be great. I would certainly use your service for tutorials for clients. What formats would you allow?
 
Erin


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Dec 16, 2007 10:08 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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That`s an important part of any online training--computer-based training, or CBT. The student is mostly working alone, so they need to know not only what they got wrong, but what`s the correct answer. It`s also useful to know why they got it wrong. One option is to explain all the possible responses, and explain why the wrong responses are indeed wrong.
malloc

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Dec 17, 2007 7:41 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi David,

The only thing was that I didn`t get a 100% but it didn`t tell me what questions I got wrong. Maybe I missed it but at the top it told my % and it would really help to know what I got wrong.

 
Kathy,
 
You are correct. You and Craig are racing ahead of me . The information is there behind the scenes, just not displayed yet.
 
To answer the other question - yes a client will be able to embed the training course into their own web-page using a simple IFRAMES statement (e.g. <iframe href=http://www.trainingcanvas.com/presentor ></iframe>). However if you try this at the moment with the sample site I set up you will probably receive an error when you attempt to navigate off of the module page. I threw the sample site together on Sunday in response to Erin`s request and used a simple state cacheing scheme that probably will not work under an iframe (I am drifinting in to geek speak so I will stop now ). Give me a few days and both will be there.
 
Craig and Erin, can you explain further your idea for demos? I can see training and simple presentations. What did you have in mind for demos?
 
I am happily surprised (and a bit excited!) at the response I am getting to this idea. Thank you very much for your feed back.
 
David
malloc

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Dec 17, 2007 7:54 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I would certainly use your service for tutorials for clients. What formats would you allow?
 
Thank you Erin! What formats? At the moment simple HTML (or XHTML to be exact). I should be able to support anything that can be embedded into a web-page - I just need to adjust the framework a bit to support new things. Currnetly I allow lists, tables, links and pictures (since this is all I needed at the time). With a few minutes work (per item) I could also support embedding YourTube videos, MS Office documents (Word, Excel, Powerpoint), Flash files, sound files (so the content could have music or a voice over) etc. Anything that a normal web-page can support. I guess this is all part of finding out what the customer would want in a training application. What did you have in mind?
 
Regards,
 
David
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