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abc1111

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Oct 27, 2007 8:23 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I am working on a start-up and currently have 4 friends helping me. They are not official employees, simply working on the same project. I am planning to share equity with them soon though. We are developing a product and I did not have them sign anything. I am concerned that if for any reason we get in bad term, they may decide to develop the product themselve. If there is a time to have them sign something, it is certainly at the beginning. What document should they sign: NDA? Confidentiality agreement? Anything else? Where could I download them?

 

CookieMonster

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Oct 28, 2007 8:02 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You should have a partnership agreement.
CampSteve

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Oct 28, 2007 9:57 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I concur, a partnership agreement.

I have a startup with two friends and we have signed an agreement spelling out the division of equity and other matters.  We wrote it ourselves since we haven`t officially filed for an LLC yet.  But it is important for us to spell out, agree and sign on those terms even before we get to that place.

You should do the same.

abc1111

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Oct 28, 2007 11:09 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Here is one I found: http://www.ilrg.com/forms/partnership-agreement.html

It says that profit and losses are share equally among partners. I certainly do not want that. They are helping but not to the point to split like this!

Since I am already in a LLC, can I define them as partners without changing the operating agreement?

CookieMonster

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Oct 28, 2007 11:20 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Well there are ways to allow them to be partners even if you`re already operating as an LLC. I.E. Stock grants. It really depends on what you want. You should hike on down to the library and get a few books. Then you should talk to a lawyer. This is not the sort of issue best solved on an internet message board, as mistakes here could be very costly, and the particulars of your situation are undoubtedly relevant to the kind of contract you wish to draft. Bottom line, either educate yourself or hire a lawyer. Best if you can do both.

CookieMonster

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Oct 28, 2007 11:39 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Just to give you an example. Let`s say that you decide to work out a temporary agreement in lieu of something more permanent, with governing documents, stock certificates, etc. Even a temporary agreement has tricky elements. You probably need a clause that says something like "this Temporary Agreement shall be effective until (date)" and "the Permanent Agreement shall be drafted in the future. The parties agree operating conditions and the business environment are likely to change subsequent to the date upon this Agreement. Therefore the terms of any final agreement may differ substantially from the terms herein." I am not a lawyer - I`m just sharing some of my past experiences. This stuff is complex and a really good, clear understanding of the issues involved - and the rights/obligations of your partnership agreement - is really essential to preserving your sanity.
Nuevolution

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Oct 30, 2007 2:35 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I am working on a start-up and currently have 4 friends helping me. They are not official employees, simply working on the same project. I am planning to share equity with them soon though. We are developing a product and I did not have them sign anything. I am concerned that if for any reason we get in bad term, they may decide to develop the product themselve. If there is a time to have them sign something, it is certainly at the beginning. What document should they sign: NDA? Confidentiality agreement? Anything else? Where could I download them?

Tough one... Let me ask you something, do these friends of yours have anything to do with you forming your LLC? Are they in anyways involved i.e. Board members (Does an LLC have board members too?) Not big on LLC`s

There is no time limit as to when you should have them sign an agreement.. What can happen is that, since you let it go too long.. there might be some resentment towards you (from your friends)... they might even get offended... I think that for the sake of your product, you call a meeting and you say something like... for the sake of the company, I think it`s best if we all sign a NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT..Even you to make them feel better...

See the minute you involve a lawyer, they might feel threatened and leave...
Although, this is a 1/2 legal.... there is also the other side; "the friendship" issue..

MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE
Nuevolution2007-10-30 3:37:58


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legallink

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Oct 31, 2007 11:32 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Just a legal chime in.

They are friends, but it is important to have agreements laid out.

NDA`s are great, as are partnership agreements.  The reality is they nor you will take it seriously until there is a paper document.  Until they sign something it is just a good time with fun chats, and perhaps producing a document here and there.  Sign it and it becomes a real venture.

In regards to the agreements, stock is not allowed in LLCs, and you have to really figure out what type of organization you are starting, whether a corporation or an LLC when discussing formalities of boards and such.


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danbu1

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Nov 01, 2007 7:08 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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The biggest mistake you can make is not having things written down.  When things go well (or bad), people conveniently forget the verbal agreements.  I would even review the agreement periodically to make sure everyone is on the same page.

Most definately get a NDA.



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