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Isn`t it amazing just how easy it is to get the SuN "Negative Clique" to continue a thread ... with the "All About Me" type posts.

Folks, if you want to have ALL the foolish bickering back and forth to stop ... just Stop Posting  ... on the thread.

Or, since many of the people that are bickering back and forth are SuNbassadors ... just get the thread closed !!

If you are soooooo concerned about how SuN looks ... just stop bickering !!

Then you can have a typical Berkley style Love-Fest !!

Although I do agree with your sentiment, I don`t agree that I should just blindly support another person. If what they are doing is promoting bad business practices here on SuN in order to gain clients, I do feel like I should point these out to whoever is reading. Do not agree that the number of bad apples in your industry hurts the industry as a whole? People have so much mistrust of web developers at this point, and with good reason ... most of my clients come with the baggage of getting screwed by another developer. So that is hard for me, and obviously something that is important. Do I think everyone who calls themselves a web designer should know how to properly hand code their own templates? Yes, I do. This used to be industry standard before people went straight to working for themselves instead of working at other companies for a while where such thing was a requirement. And if by talking about this practice, I can save me from having to tell one more person that I can`t add to their site, I`d have to redesign the whole thing because the backend code is so bad ... then great. I`ve saved some small business owner a few grand. And that is my concern, not worrying about if there are people in my industry who are insulted because they can`t hand-code and find my mentioning of the practice offensive.


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That PHP Girl
Small Business Essentials
Latest Post on SUN: New Facebook Pages - First Impressions

First of all, I`m the only SunBassador in this thread. Just to make that clear.

Secondly, and to be honest ... a thread with high view count is good for a site that is supported on cost-per-impression basis.

Thirdly, I really do think some of this is important. I could have done without a few people in this thread, but there is some great information coming out of this thread ... ie what you can do with WordPress, why using prepackaged software is great but you still should fully customize it if you are using it for business, how to spot a potential problem when hiring  new developer, etc.

And now that this has all been said, yes, I think this thread will come to it`s own conclusion.


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That PHP Girl
Small Business Essentials
Latest Post on SUN: New Facebook Pages - First Impressions

I have found the thread very informative even with the bickering. 

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Credit Card Counseling / Small Business Owner

Wait!... Flying under the radar huh..
1. Rush Limbaugh
2. Spads - Shopping Cart
3. Constant Attacts on Joel?
Hey wait! I know this person, HEY TJ how you been?
I thought you were banned from SUN... You know what the difference amongst all of us in here; is TJ?

We are not all going to agree with each other at times. Disputes are always going to arise, but it takes only one "person" [in this case cookiemonster] to blow things out of proportion.
I think this thread was fine without him putting his two cents in, but he did and this is the outcome.

BUT NO MATTER WHAT! We keep it between ourselves... None of us here attack RICH, JOEL, or JEFF.... BTW? Why are you mad at them? If I were the creator of SUN and you told me to my face, that I was using the forum for my own personal dating site, I would have banned you long time ago too... and thats what they did...

TJ, I think you need to go see a psychologist or take angry management classes. I think it`s time for you to whack the old pillow with a whiffle ball bat... you need to release some anger....

You should call RUSH LIMBAUGH, and tell him that "ANGER within you is a ticking time bomb, that leads to SELF-DESTRUCTION"




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Edgar Monroy
Web Developer / Owner / Consultant
When starting your own business the need to "know-how" is greater than money!
http://www.nuevolution.net

Nuevolution, its apparent that you never read a post some time ago about TJ in Iraq. Too bad. Just drop the TJ stuff, ok?

Popcorn anyone?


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Aaron Wood
CEO
San Diego Dream Weavers
http://www.sddreamweavers.com
awood@sddreamweavers.com

New and improved! Now with blogging goodness!
http://www.sddreamweavers.com/san-diego-seo-marketing-blog/

Wow, Edgar ... no tact.

Sorry blondiblue.


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That PHP Girl
Small Business Essentials
Latest Post on SUN: New Facebook Pages - First Impressions

My, what a lovely discussion we have here...

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Oleg Issers | StartupNation.com Web Team

50% of computer programming is trial and error. The other 50% is copy and paste.

I`ve heard people reference WP as a great CMS. Well, yes and no. If you are simply looking for a platform to allow for creating new pages, then WP can do that job.

However, there are alot of businesses who need a site that is more dynamic and requires manipulation of web content. For example, here are a several common needs of some clients;

Client wants;

1. to have a section on the sidebar where new events are updated. Client wants to have a page called new events and when they edit that page, the event will update automatically on the sidebar. Or any situation that requires the site to update automatically. Think Latest News or Latest Job openings.
   
2. To have a backend that allows them to manage categories across links, images, audio files, as well as articles. There is where the CM in CMS comes from. They want to really manage loads and loads of content that comes in many forms.
   
3. To have a more robust way of archiving hundreds of pages in a rather orderly fashion.
   

In this regards, WP can`t do everything. I believe WP can do the first if you know your php. I don`t believe the WP docs show how to do something that dynamic unless you know your php.

I know 2 and 3 isn`t doable.

Different strokes for different folks :)