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st8ic

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Sep 19, 2008 8:09 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I saved hard and finally ended up with $20,000 to start my very own business. This is the high point in the story.

After launch came the legal fees. And the book keeping fees. Next I bought a work truck. Then I bought a little bit of stock. Realizing that I didn`t have enough left over for more stock, I had the bright idea of buying a pallet of valves and liquidating them off for some quick cash. I figured that since this is an oil town, it should be extremely easy to get rid of the valves at wholesale price. They haven`t sold yet.

It`s been six months since I incorporated and all I have to show for it is an empty bank account and a big box of valves. I may be forced to borrow at ridiculous interest rates even after having saved $20,000 just to get some stock to sell.

If anybody has any ideas in regards to how to sell a pallet of 3" and 4" flanged ball valves, I would love to hear them. Otherwise, some advice would be excellent. Thanks!
stonesledge

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Sep 19, 2008 11:27 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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My advice- do not do that again! :). But maybe put an add out, or sell on ebay business?Did you contact companies personally that may be in the market- even at your cost?

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CraigL

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Sep 20, 2008 1:58 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I guess my question is whether or not you had a business plan before you started? You likely would have had a financial section, detailing your projected expenses and whether or not $20K would be sufficient?

One option would be to ask the government for a bail-out, since that seems all the rage this week. :-) But no, I do understand the pain and anxiety you`re dealing with.

Is there ANY way you can hang onto your basic investment while you work out how to re-start the business? You`ve invested not only a lot of money, but a whole lot of personal sweat and imagination. You may have put the cart before the horse, but before you declare it dead, perhaps you can hang on and look for solutions.

Have you spoken with anyone in your local SCORE branch? They may make you feel embarrassed, but they also might be able to come up with creative solutions. I`m not sure what`s your product so I don`t know what stock you`re talking about.

Craig`s List might help, as maybe Erin`s thought about using eBay to auction off some of your inventory. The truck is equity, and even if you don`t drive it, you`ll eventually need it again when the business is up and running. Legal fees and bookkeeping, you likely can`t get back, but you could do your own bookkeeping for the moment.

Did you do the market research to know that you`d have a viable market originally? If so, what were the key points that indicated that viability? There may be something there you`re missing or forgetting that could re-ignite the business.
Guests

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Sep 21, 2008 1:06 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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The obvious question would be, "what were you thinking"?  And I don`t mean that in a belittling way.  I`m assuming you had a potential market in mind or you wouldn`t have jumped into the business, and that market fell apart for some reason.  So my question now is "have you stopped thinking"?
In any market, large ball valves don`t exactly fly off the shelves.  The large distributors here may carry a half dozen at any given time, just to make sure they can service their customers.  But a pallet wouldn`t be necessary unless a huge infrastructure project was underway, and then they`d order accordingly.  By the way, a pallet is only 50 pieces is it not?  No matter, unless the ball valves are industry specific, then you have just a few real options:
 
1. Consider what other industries have a need for the valves and solicit them directly.  Often, large contractors will take a few pieces and stock them if the price is right.
 
2. Speak to every supplier you can and see if you can unload a few pieces to each.  I doubt anyone will take a pallet.
 
3. See if the suppliers will take a few on consignment. Naturally, this is a worst case scenario, but at least you don`t have to store them, and you know eventually you`ll get paid for them.  And, in the interim, if you do find another place to unload them, you can always get them back.
 
One final piece of advice.  Don`t stop trying, but next time call SCORE before you leap.
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st8ic

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Sep 21, 2008 4:51 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks for the responses and especially the encouragement guys.

Just to clarify, I ran out of cash before I could even do any advertising. The business its self was never tested, just the startup budget. I am still confident in the business and yes, I do have a plan for when it gets off the ground.

The pallet contains 15 valves. I have called many many oilfield manufacturing companies, and have recieved about 25 "no`s" from purchasers. The main reason for this is because natural gas production in particular is in a downward trend right now, so nobody is building the pressure tanks and seperators that these valves would be appropriate for. I`ve also tried ebay and classifieds sites.

I`m in Canada and there is no SCORE chapter here, unfortunately. 
CraigL

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Sep 22, 2008 12:44 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks for the clarifications. Just so others might learn, a business plan usually would be prior to actually starting the business and would include results of market testing, advertising budget, and all other startup costs. It doesn`t work as well to have a plan for after the business is up and running.

The main reason being that the business plan is all about how to get from nothing to that point where the system is in place and running. A "strategic" plan would then encompass what to do after it`s running.

I realize there`s not much you can do about it now, and we`re looking at moving forward. But others do read these topics, long into the future, and who know; maybe it`ll save someone else some heartache.

Can you diversify the business as a stop-gap measure? For example, you say you have this truck that presumably is relatively new and in good shape. What sort of productive revenues might you get using that truck? Could you start a delivery service, or lease the truck to someone who needs it?

I don`t think natural gas production is going to come to a halt. It may be in a downward turn right now, but like real estate, it won`t stay there forever. We do need energy, and gas is part of that energy. If you could function and bring in revenues some other way, you could build up an advertising budget and also hold on until a turn in the market? Maybe?
Sandblaster

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Sep 24, 2008 1:09 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Start little fires!
 
By that, I mean start selling on a small scale and work  your way up to the bigger deals.
 
I can`t say that I stayed 100% debt free in my startup, but I identified many little steps along the way.  Once I reached one step, I started planning how to get to the next step as finances and skill would permit.  It`s slow going at times, but it certainly gives a person time to think and plan. 
 
Do not borrow!  Sometimes fast credit can spell fast trouble if you are not prepared...which appears to be the case.  I know, because I`ve been in similar straits.
 
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