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CraigL

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Sep 21, 2008 3:05 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I have a general sense of the term, but if someone with an economics background could explain this, I have one main question: is labor a part of value added?
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Sep 21, 2008 11:29 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Craig,
 
Value added refers to the additional value of a commodity over the cost of commodities used to produce it from the previous stage of production.
 
An example is the price of gasoline at the pump over the price of the oil in it.  
 
In other words, it refers to the factors of production used to get the product to the next stage.  Factors of production could include labor, capital, human capital, etc.  The factors of production provide "services" which raise the unit price of a product (X) relative to the cost per unit of "intermediate goods" used up in the production of X.
 
I hope this helps!


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Sep 21, 2008 12:34 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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In the world of real estate, the term Value Added will be a key component of development in this tight economy. 

 

By way of example:  If you own a piece of real estate, and you can add value to that real estate by building additional footage of space or other creative approach, the given that you already have the existing piece as equity to draw upon, the odds are you’ll have the best chance in this market to get financing. 

CraigL

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I`m reading "The Zero-Sum Solution," where Thurow speaks about a bi-annual bonus system for wages. The formula would be a percentage of the value added.

I get that value added is the difference in costs and selling price, but he implies that calculating the value added is a simple process. Calculating `profit` isn`t such a simple process, due to the way people manipulate numbers to show profit or loss.

So I`m reading above and assuming that labor is indeed part of the calculation, right?
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I think this really needs to analyzed from the product level, rather than the enterprise level, then multiplied by the number of products produced.  If this is an incentive system for production, you need to structure the incentive in this way so that production workers are not penalized for poor salesmanship resulting in lower profit at the enterprise level.
 
We would be essentially looking at the direct costs and production overhead, without regard for enterprise overhead, so that the incentive system for the production workers was analyzed based on their efforts alone and not the efforts and expenses of others.  Then we also want to keep a close eye on the price per product we are receiving so that the measurement of value produced is not dependent on the ability of the salepeople to negotiate the best price for the product either.


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CraigL

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Shane, I went back and re-read the definition in the book, and Thurow sure seems to be saying that labor is not included. It`s the sale price minus the cost of materials and components. That speaks to DMI`s example, of building a real building on piece of land.

But does the labor in making that building count, or is only the lumber, nails, concrete, and other materials.

Yet Wikipedia includes labor. So I dunno...seems pretty confusing to me. For it to be a very simple calculation, I`m thinking it`d be just the tangibles going into the product, one at a time. I`m calling labor an intangible.

I`m also starting to come to a decision as to what I think about a VAT (value added tax), removing entirely personal and corporate income tax. Thurow makes a compelling argument, and I`m aware of a number of other people who are selling the idea. It`s better than a flat tax, head tax, and sales tax, I think.

So I just want to make sure I know `zackly what`s involved in this value added thingamajig.
CraigL2008-9-22 0:38:21
shane68114

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Sep 22, 2008 7:37 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Well, we briefly covered the concept in a business valuation course today, and I think I better understand your original line of thought.  If we want to look at the value added by a process (ie conversion of raw materials into finished product) then we would take the gross revenue, less direct material costs.  This removes the fluctuation in the underlying raw materials from the calculation of value for the process. 

So labor is tossed out because it is part of the conversion process that is being assigned value.  The value is therefore, not a value added by the labor but by the processing steps from raw materials to finished products.



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CraigL

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Ah...that would explain why a VAT would be across the board fair, and would also tax the gray market, and illegal activities. It`d work like a sales tax, but couldn`t be "jimmied" based on arbitrary labor costs and strange accounting methods of profit and depreciation.

Hmm....I think I`m coming down on the side of favoring this kind of tax system. It also wouldn`t allow for government micro-management through an incomprehensible tax code. There`d be a number, that`s it.

One of the interesting things is that taxes are calculated based on sales of product or services. Right now, the government employees sector makes up one of the largerst groups in the working economy. They`re paid by tax money. On the other hand, they sell nothing. Seems to me putting the House and Senate on commission might not be such a bad idea. :-)
CraigL2008-9-22 20:16:32
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