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CraigL

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Feb 01, 2008 10:01 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You`d be surprised at the assertive argumens people have in favor of red text on a blue or green background, or low contrast text on a low contrast background. If I understand those arguments correcty, they seem to go along with either a) I like it and don`t give a rat`s ass what other people like; or, b) If people have to work to read my site, they`ll retain the information more deeply.

Of course I disagree, but then again, it`s not my site, and I don`t have to earn money from it. :-)
Mrbusiness

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Feb 03, 2008 9:23 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Pages that don`t have return buttons.  Navigation is key!


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MCSnow

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Feb 06, 2008 6:33 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Wow, some great things to look out for! I`m am guilty of more than a few...

I have a question, though. You all have made your point about Microsoft Frontpage but I`m afraid that`s the program I used for my site. As someone who has only put together my own site, (the first attempt being in WORD, LOL) what *is* the better program that will not break the bank? I love my site and am only thinking of changing the *way* it`s coded plus implementing some of your aforementioned suggestions, not the design. Thoughts?

MCSnow2/6/2008 6:35 PM


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CraigL

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Hi Marisa,
Get a copy of "Nvu." It`s free, comes from the Mozilla team, it`s OpenSource, and is easily comparable with DreamWeaver. It makes very clean code, and has all kinds of nifty things you find out about as you learn more about the program.

Nvu User Guide
Nvu Wiki
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Really Good Web Help
WebMonkey - Development

vwebworld

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Wow, some great things to look out for! I`m am guilty of more than a few...

I have a question, though. You all have made your point about Microsoft Frontpage but I`m afraid that`s the program I used for my site. As someone who has only put together my own site, (the first attempt being in WORD, LOL) what *is* the better program that will not break the bank? I love my site and am only thinking of changing the *way* it`s coded plus implementing some of your aforementioned suggestions, not the design. Thoughts?
 
FrontPage (now "expressions") like any other piece of software is a tool. It is not basically a bad tool but can produce extra code if you use some of the "bells and whistles". Expressions and the last version of FP are both more CSS friendly.
 
I would not toss FP out the door. Just be aware of what you producing (html code) and FP will work fine.
 
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MCSnow

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Feb 07, 2008 9:25 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks, Craig! I love the mozilla guys. I`ll definitely check that out.

Roland, I have FP `97 (lol) so I doubt it`s very up to date on code issues. Not that I`d know what I`m looking for anyway. I appreciate your message!



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buggrep

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Feb 11, 2008 2:46 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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website with lots of graphics that are not conveying any true value to the site. What most people don`t understand is that website is supposed to have a clear message that goes straight to the point. All lot of people fail to do that and as a result users just go away after 2 seconds from seeign your website.


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CraigL

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Feb 11, 2008 9:56 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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LOL! Maybe that`d be the Mother of All Web Site Peeves---that people don`t get the concept of using the *page* to get across a message. :-)
jayme28

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Feb 21, 2008 1:47 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I really appreciate all your comments about annoying websites.  I am starting to work with a freelance designer right now to construct an e-commerce site.  He really wants to do Flash. After reading your comments, I have decided this is not a good idea.  I am having trouble organizing what needs to come first, next, etc.  I don`t want to frustrate my designer in this process. Is there a step by step process to how websites are designed?

 I have a person in mind to do my copywriting.  Does my designer need this before he works on the graphics, site map, and page layouts?  I don`t want to have to depend on my designer, programmer and copywriter to make every change to my website.  I need help!


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CraigL

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Feb 21, 2008 7:54 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Copywriting and content fundamentally drive a Web site, for the most part, unless it`s a big-time Web 2.0 or Flash-type interactive system. But for the most part, the Web still is text-based, transferring information through words. Pictures, of course, amplify those words in many instances, so the two go hand in hand.

In my own minimal experience of actually building our site, I found it tremendously easier to have the content first. That way I could use real content as I laid out the visual design. The developer should give you a layout example (or several), with nonsense text, so you can decide on the overall look of your site. When you`ve picked the layout style, then put in your own content to see how the two go together.

Think of building a Web site as creating a magazine. Is there a step-by-step guide to creating, producing, publishing, and selling a magazine? Maybe...but it`s going to be complicated. :-)
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