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ToddF

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Jan 19, 2007 11:08 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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actually chuck I worked with a lot of programers that new nothing about CSS. I totally agree with the fact it`s a backbone for development however sometimes programers come from the backend and never really had to learn it. As would a front end guy trying to learn SQL. 

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Chuck

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Jan 20, 2007 1:40 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I hear ya - I think it`s just  semantics again, trying to define exactly what a "web developer" means.

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jillybeans

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Jan 31, 2007 10:21 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Well, I wouldn`t know programming from developing from creating from squat, but I`m working with Nuevolution and he`s doing a fabulous job.  I should be open in just a few weeks.  I met him here on SuNation, and he was kind enough (as are all of you) to share knowlege with me.  My web domain will be in English (that`s what language I know!) --  ok, so obviously that`s not the programming language  .

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JulioF

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Feb 12, 2007 1:22 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Cascading Style Sheets. CSS.

Our friends who are back-end (where the majority of business logic resides) developers may not realize it, but they have known about the concepts behind CSS for decades.

Basically, just the gathering of parameters into a separate file (or table, for the SQL gurus) which are then accessed for various purposes.

For web developers, CSS controls the visual style of the displayed pages. For legacy IBM mainframe systems, the visual screen style was/is controlled with CICS.

Parameters to control configuration of printers have long been maintained in discrete files. To define and configure Tandem computer system environments, the Pathway configuration files have long been in use.

The concept of computer processes communicating via interprocess messaging was first brought to market by Tandem in the early 1970`s. Client-server = a term coined in the `80`s for interprocess communication. Tandem developed and had been using the underlying concept for a decade by the time another company magically created the phrase "client-server" and marketed it as their own new idea, which it was not.

The entire Tandem architecture is based on every process and device being considered as a "file" to be opened, communicated with, and closed. Messages can be variable in length, and be targeted to perform their own specific functions. There is no need to resend an entire screen`s worth of data, when only a small portion of the screen requires an update and redisplay. Just transmit the small subset of data to the screen, and have it displayed in it`s screen segment, layer, or overlay. Tandem has been doing this, again, since the 1970`s... the most recent reincarnation of this concept being known today as Web 2.0.

What does this have to do with CSS? Once again, everything old is new again! :-)

For those who are new to the computer industry, CSS and Web 2.0 are the latest and greatest in web design and development. To those who know the history of computers and development, it is a rehash of existing concepts.
JulioF2007-2-12 13:27:55


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Enjoy seeing the web and computer languages and methodologies evolve, or rather, revolve, for over 20 years! Revolve = rename and repackage the same old features and processes, and claim that the old is actually new!
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