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gonink

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Jan 08, 2009 6:01 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Maybe this post doesn`t belong here and if not, please feel free to move it accordingly.

But as I deal with more and more web clients, I`m finding that a "do it all by myself" mentality is there. Don`t get me wrong, there`s nothing wrong with people wanting to do it themselves and learning the ins and outs of how website design works, but is this demand so high that it (web design) will become a commodity?

As I browse through this forum I see a lot of questions about templates, wordpress templates, blogger templates, etc. etc. And then if I search for some "DIY" programs on the web I can find more than I know what to do with.

Any thoughts??

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Jan 08, 2009 8:43 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Right now, Web "stuff" is all new. It`s still in the hobby phase sort of like when PCs first came out. Plus, everybody`s heard that "you gotta have a Web presence!"

It`ll take a bit, but pretty soon people will discover that a DYI site usually ends up pretty simplistic. To get something useful and interactive takes skill.

So no, I don`t think Web design will become a commodity any more than I believe live music will be a commodity.
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Jan 09, 2009 9:29 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Craig,

I see what you`re saying and agree to a point. But I`m wondering what some would say in the photography industry. It use to be that good quality photographers were paid a pretty good penny for their work/skills. But now you can buy the same caliber of work for about $1 per photo.

And I`m just thinking that web design or graphic design as a whole will be experiencing the same thing.

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Jan 09, 2009 10:36 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I don`t think that true "art" can become a commodity.  I do view website design as mostly a commodity for nearly all businesses.  Most businesses can use a template.  The guys that charge several thousand bucks and/or a monthly fee to design a website [or optimize it for search engines] are selling something that is largely a waste of money and not needed.  The skill required to do that work simply is not very high.
 


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Jan 09, 2009 11:50 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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The skill required to do that work simply is not very high.

If the skill you`re speaking of is just implementing a template, you`re probably right to an extent. But the skills needed to understand how it all works, I think that`s way higher than one might think.
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I don`t think that true "art" can become a commodity.  I do view website design as mostly a commodity for nearly all businesses.  Most businesses can use a template.  The guys that charge several thousand bucks and/or a monthly fee to design a website [or optimize it for search engines] are selling something that is largely a waste of money and not needed.  The skill required to do that work simply is not very high.
 
 "largely a waste of money"
 
You might get some argument there from people who have "paid" for a website and
found it successful.  Also, from designers who provide valued services.
 
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Jan 09, 2009 12:06 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You might get some argument there from people who have "paid" for a website and
found it successful.  Also, from designers who provide valued services.
 
~Roland


Oh, I would argue it. There are situations where a template based system would work and certain "skills" aren`t needed, but all in all I think the skills for web designers are still going to be needed.

I just worry that the template system is going to become such a reckoning force, people aren`t going to look at the full picture of what a website should be doing for them besides being "cool" or looking "pretty".
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Jan 09, 2009 12:25 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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"The skill required to do that work simply is not very high."

Sure, if you want an unattractive, uncreative, one-size-fits-all website with neutral or no SEO and no Content Management System in place, and have no desire to attract or keep viewers in your site. 


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Jan 09, 2009 2:41 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I`ll make 2 suggestions ....

1) Most small start up businesses have a very limited budget, and are going to look at how to do things the least expensive way they can ( not saying the cheapest, the least expensive ). If they can use a template to get the start of a web presence vs paying ( potentially ) a lot of money for something custom, it makes sense to go the template route until they can budget for something more original and customized.

2) If a customer needs a site that uses databases and requires custom scripting and specialty areas, a template won`t provide that, and blogging and CMS systems may not meet their needs. Due to that, designers and programmers will be needed to make a site that is customized to the customers` needs.

Craig contacted me some time back about some custom programming, which I`m not sure could have been found on the web "ready to go out of the box", as it required different types of functionality. So, we worked together and I developed the backend of it. It`s just an example of something needing to be done that wasn`t readily available for free, so the development end was a requirement.





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Jan 09, 2009 5:33 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I was just thinking about the Curmudgeon site. Plus, we have totally unusual needs for an eventual signal flag site and shopping cart. What we needed for the curmudgeon site simply didn`t exist. Parts of it apparently did---Michael is the magician, so I don`t know---but even as parts, they weren`t designed to be used the way we used them.

Think about the Wright brothers, and how they used a bicycle shop. They too had a template design, and could do it themselves. All they were doing was building a common bicycle, with just a simple extra requirement---it should also fly.

What it comes down to is perceived value, and even more importantly, the entire concept of "create." Lots of people take what others have created and blithely disregard what went into those creations. They just assume that "they" are doing the building, developing, and so forth. They conveniently forget that someone had to invent the templates and software.

But at a deeper level, without any kind of education as to what`s new, unique, creative, or even distinctive, people can`t recognize the value of that creativity.

Consider the number of people who grew up believing that dinner at MacDonald`s was "eating out," or "dining out," or having a "fine meal" as a treat. The fact that hamburgers are a commodity item doesn`t mean that all food is a commodity.

Not only that, but several innovative restauranteurs have developed ways to elevate the hamburger out of its commodity status. Even so, success first requires that the market in general can tell the difference between a Big Mac and a sirloin steak.
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