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bransonboy

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Apr 24, 2008 8:09 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hey!
 
I have been running a web design business for about 2 years now, but it was only as a hobby and getting paid for it. But I have turned it into a business now. How would you recommend I price websites I do etc? Also what price would you reckon I should do sites for? Don`t want to rip people off, but at the same time, I don`t want to rip myself off.
 
Any help would be great thanks.
 
 
JohnOnSales

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May 06, 2008 2:16 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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bb,
 
If you talke about price too soon, you label yourself a commodity.  You need to push the value of what you are doing, so that you are not lumped in with the "$299 website" guys.  Learn how to ask tough, open-ended questions about what they have and what it costs:
-What has kept you from changing thus far?
-If you aren`t satisfied with your results, what kind of results are you looking for?
-How long have you been doing it this way?
-What would your sales/profit results look like if it were perfect?
-So, that`s what it costs you to continue doing it this way?
-If I can make it happen, do you have any reason not to work with me?
-So, when I come back with a proposal that meets your needs, and is in line with your budget, you`ll work with me, right?
-Great!  What`s your budget, so I can make a cost-appropriate proposal?
-No budget?  You know it won`t be free, right?
-Well, you realize that we are talking about an improvement of $$$ when this properly up and running?
-What kind of profit would you make if this increased your sales that much?
 
Now, prepare your proposal.  The proposal needs to concentrate on the costs associated with doing nothing, and the things you will do to fix them, and how the things you do fix them.
 
I don`t have time to teach you how to deal with "think it over"s - but under no circumstances should you leave a detailed proposal behind.  If you do, you just gave away your intellectual property.
 
Let me know how it goes, or if there is anything I can help with.
rfresh

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Jun 07, 2008 12:49 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Charge by the hour. Most clients have no idea what they want their website to end up looking like. They are too busy running their businesses to really sit down and take the time to story board what each web page should look like. If you charge a one time fee they will Dollar you to death with endless changes. Charge a reasonable hourly rate and they will only ask you to do what has to be done and then stop.

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sddreamweavers

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Jun 08, 2008 12:36 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hey!
 
I have been running a web design business for about 2 years now, but it was only as a hobby and getting paid for it. But I have turned it into a business now. How would you recommend I price websites I do etc? Also what price would you reckon I should do sites for? Don`t want to rip people off, but at the same time, I don`t want to rip myself off.
 
Any help would be great thanks.
 
 



The biggest investment you can make is your own website.  You need something that is going to absolutely floor your potential customers and give them the reason to use you.

I agree with Ralph.  Charge by the hour. 
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Jun 12, 2008 8:18 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi! I too am a web designer and my pages are customized; I consider the number of hours, pages, design specifics and since I am new, I discount all my designs, from a per page price I have originated from everything involved, in hopes of repeat business and referrals. 
 
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Jun 28, 2008 10:52 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Don`t charge by the hour.  How long it takes you to write a chunk of code should not be reflected in your customer`s end price.  People are leary of hiring you by the hour because you are not working in front of them, so they feel like you might fudge your hours.  You should make deals based on content and number of pages needed.  You will know by talking with a customer if their design is going to take you a few hours or a few days. 

Look at what others are charging and add value to your services to beat the competition.  Don`t price so low that a customer will question your ability.  Simply add value.  For example, offer to set them up with a hosting company that is of good quality and has an easily to navigate website for their later ease of use.  Maybe offer to pay for their shared hosting fees for 6-12 months.  This adds value to your services.

Also, read some "how to find a good web designer" articles to know what people who search are expecting of you. 

Most importantly, have a GREAT website that showcases your abilities.  This is your biggest ticket.  Having a good web host and other web solutions resources to recommend to your customers is also a big selling point.  People love it when designers help them with all that confusing hosting stuff :) 

best,

sddreamweavers

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Jun 30, 2008 1:02 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Don`t charge by the hour.  How long it takes you to write a chunk of code should not be reflected in your customer`s end price.  People are leary of hiring you by the hour because you are not working in front of them, so they feel like you might fudge your hours.  You should make deals based on content and number of pages needed.  You will know by talking with a customer if their design is going to take you a few hours or a few days. 


The drawback to that is your customer taking their dear sweet time getting back to you with approvals, updates, feedback, content.  If you`re waiting for one small piece of feedback from your customer after which you will be paid X amount of dollars and have waited weeks for them to get back to you, you`re up the creek without a paddle.


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Jul 01, 2008 6:45 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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We often have little changes to make to our site that we probably wouldn`t do if we were paying some hourly fee.  We would just wait until there were a lot of little things that we figure would take some time and get them fixed.  If we were charged per site, we would be fiddling with it all the time with (most likely insignificant) little things.


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Jul 20, 2008 2:47 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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this is a great thread! very informative and useful :D


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Jul 23, 2008 11:28 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Excellent resource for you is the pricing calculator on  www.freelanceswitch.com/rates 

We`ve been in this business for a few years and have just now decided to go to the next level.  I used this to determine how I price my jobs.  I don`t usually charge by the hour but I do use an hourly rate to calculate the estimate.  Basically just estimate how long you think the job will take.  Use a rate such as this one...and go.

This makes it fair for you and your client.

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