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cdurbinrhp

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Oct 12, 2006 2:00 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Does anyone have any knowledge on the quality of education and applied knowledge that University of Phoenix courses have?  In your opinions, does street wisdom trump organized learning?

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theswaynester

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Oct 12, 2006 3:49 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I work for a distance education provider (fair disclosure) and I have to say that Phoenix Online gets "pretty good" reviews for quality of education and applied knowledge.
Now, when it comes to common sense vs. organized learning, in my opinion, I`ve run into a lot of nitwits with doctorates and a lot of geniuses that (barely) have high school diplomas. I believe it all depends on the individual.
What I can`t deny is that a degree opens doors. I finished my degree in journalism as a returning adult student and frankly, I would imagine the degree on the resume matters more to employers than my decade-plus experience as a reporter and editor.
I`d like to tie this in with your original query about Phoenix Online... My friend is a director at a telecom. He hired someone who earned a degree from Phoenix Online and I asked him if another candidate had the same qualifications, experience, etc. but had a degree from a more traditional university, who would he pick? And he told me, honestly, he`d hire the candidate from the traditional university.
So, I`d say check out a couple online programs from a traditional college, if you`re going the distance route.

CraigL

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Oct 12, 2006 7:18 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Wasn`t this the idea behind that reality show...I can`t remember, maybe "The Apprentice?" where one of the seasons compared street smarts to college degrees?
Nuevolution

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Oct 13, 2006 2:43 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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cdurbinrhp,
Thats a good question, What has more power, Street Knowledge or Book Knowldege. My answer to that would be they both even out. Remember, there is only so much you can do with street knowledge before you hire a professional.
Street knowledge has it`s advantages and disadvantages. Some of the advantages is you think quicker than the average person " meaning, you can sense something wrong a mile away" but it also has its disadvantages, because for some reason people these days feel more comfortable dealing with someone that`s not a high-school drop out, unless you are a successful drop out and people want you to share your secret, but as you see, there`s not so many bright high school drop-outs. They dropped out for a reason.
Now as far as University of Phoenix?? I heard good things about it, but it wouldn`t be my first choice if I was looking into a college.
Have you looked into DeVry, Or a community College?
by the way? what is it that you are interested in? Business, Engineering, Technician? What are your goals?


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cdurbinrhp

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Oct 13, 2006 12:58 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks for the answers.  I don`t have the time to attend a traditional university and would probably have to wait another six-ten years before I could entertain attending.  The option of U of Phoenix is just something I could do now to further my education.  I would rather go to a traditional if I had the choice.  My situation has extenuating circumstances.

I agree with your comments...street wisdom can take you a long way, but a mix of both higher education and street smarts is probably the best of all scenarios.



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CraigL

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Oct 13, 2006 8:27 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Here`s an interesting thought that struck me, reading about documentation. Think about people who become ordained ministers in 5 minutes for $15 on a Web site. They`re legally ordained, and the US government recognizes them as such.

Are they really a minister?

Do they have more or less credibility if they dress up in a white collar or otherwise present themselves as a minister? When was the last time you asked a priest to see a copy of their authentication?

The better valuation of a degree is what actual knowledge to you gain from the university. For those only interested in the superficialities of a degree, you likely wouldn`t want to do business with them. But knowing for certain that you have the knowledge you gain from an accredited professor gives YOU the confidence.

U of Phoenx is, I believe, fully accredited.
moneymelz

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Oct 13, 2006 11:19 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I don`t know, I went to college I have a four year degree and I still don`t have a "grown up" job/career. My interviewers say i need more experience. I still recommend college, there is nothing like the experience, going to class, cramming, cafeteria food, the relationships, the lifetime networking-- alumni, old friends, fraternity /sorority connections. I would go back in a heart beat, But experience gets the good jobs, or either knowing someone in the right position, but that`s another topic all together.

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CraigL

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Oct 14, 2006 3:38 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Wisdom = Knowledge + Experience.

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drdesigns

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Oct 17, 2006 6:45 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Maybe consider a transfer degree from a community college, who in my
area offer on-line courses.

I see advertisements from some of our local college`s catering to people
who don`t have time to attend classes during the day by offering night
classes, on-line courses, free parking etc.

Before deciding on one particular place, check all your options.
webnancy

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Oct 17, 2006 11:04 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi,

 thanks, yeah, they conveniently don`t mention the expense in order to make that money.  this totally exposes all these scams...   www.universityofvictory.org/going-broke-with-adwords.html  after the article, checkout the site. it looks like a new improved version of emerald passport.

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