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blanktorp

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Jan 01, 2009 6:42 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi - I`ve got a question related to patents in the US and international production.
This is a bit hypothetical, but I`d like to know if someone has the necessary insight so I can judge if I should try patenting an idea.
 
 
So let`s say I have a patent for an product invention. I came up with the design/function, etc and succesfully filed for a patent here in the US - and let`s say I received it so that I am the owner of the patent and the inventor.
 
Now let`s say that I suddenly notice, several months later, that imitations of the product, which look just like mine and have the same exact function, etc. are appearing for sale online.
 
I do my research, and find that already 4 different factories in China are producing this product that I have patented in the US - and they are selling it to buyers here in the US who are then selling it on sites like eBay.
 
Now I assume that of course I can`t stop the production in China....
 
So what does the US patent do for me in this case?
Can I somehow stop the resale of these imitations through these other US sellers (such as the ones on eBay)?
Can I somehow stop the shipment of the imitations into the US from these Chinese factories?
Does the patent give me any rights or "exclusivity" here in the US?
 
If none of these...when what`s the benefit of the patent? (Is it only so that the product cannot be manufactured in the US?)
 
Thanks a ton for any help!
CraigL

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Jan 01, 2009 8:48 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I`m not a patent attorney, but this particular topic is huge! It`s one of the key pillars on which a potential global economy will have to rest. The overall concept is intellectual property rights, and at the moment there are certain countries that in particular abuse the principles.

My understanding of it is that the US won`t do much for individuals like your hypothetical self. They "may" try to do something if the patent involves billions of dollars, perhaps like a pharmaceutical or technical process.

Even there, not much can actually be done so there has to be some sophisticated negotiations that take place. And that gets into "tiered" technologies, where First world nations will say that a technology has elapsed. That frees it up for Second world or Third world nations to "freely" copy the technology.

At that point, the copied products are so much cheaper, the US benefits through increased imports and foreign exchanges.

The problem is why would hypothetical you bother to create anything at all if you couldn`t profit from that something? The current thinking is to mandate global protection for a period of years, based on an unknown formula at the moment.

You would benefit and control the patent for that number of years, then give it up. Similar, perhaps to the generic drugs market.

Another possible option is to have the US gov`t. subsidize patent ownership and guarantee X years of profit, after which the property could be copied by nations in the next tier down.

It`s a really complex problem, and for now the only real enforcement option is a sort of balance-of-theft. If Israel persists in illegal copying of US technology, then the US will stop buying some critical export from Israel until intellectual property rights are enforced by the Israeli government.

Bottom line, this is a current worldwide problem. Nobody yet has a real solution, other than whatever intellectual property rights agreements and treaties that have currently been put together.

On the eBay problem, you could bring a suit against eBay and prevent them from allowing the listings. That`s what`s going on with YouTube, and places the burden on eBay (or YouTube) to directly police their own system. However; with millions of listings, how does eBay validate or verify that any particular item is in patent violation?
CraigL2009-1-1 20:51:51
patentandtrademark

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Jan 03, 2009 10:29 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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a US patent gives remedy against those in the US who make, use, or sell or import the patented good.

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James Lindon, Ph.D. Patent Attorney
Lindon & Lindon, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio
Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
[this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
http://www.LindonLaw.com
blanktorp

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Jan 04, 2009 11:51 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks very much to both of you for the replies. And especially to CraigL - thanks for taking the time for such a lengthy, detailed, and yet concise response that definitely answers my question (or rather confirms that my question remains a valid concern for everyone in the situation of my "hypothetical self")



CraigL

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Jan 05, 2009 1:08 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Note that James IS a patent attorney, and makes the point that remedy (enforcement action) is available against anyone within the US who infringes on the patent. So you would be able to at least entertain an action against eBay. It`s the practical aspect of that action that`s the problem, and how much time and money you`d be willing to invest in the overall case.
CJSteele

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Jan 31, 2011 6:45 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hey Blanktorp,

Just a few other comments.

  1. If you are to take action try to find the choke point (that's normally the importer or maybe ebay as Craig L pointed out)
  2. Sometimes Chinese suppliers will want to work with you and give you a commission for selling your product is other parts of the world where there is no patent. Especially if they think you'll have more ideas in the future.
  3. If you are creative, then you can always focus on the next thing so that the copies are always obsolete and you are the high end supplier.

I hope that helps with the benefits from you hypothetical.

patentandtrademark

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May 23, 2011 10:37 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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probably need to hire a lawyer



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James Lindon, Ph.D. Patent Attorney
Lindon & Lindon, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio
Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
[this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
http://www.LindonLaw.com
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