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CraigL

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Oct 01, 2007 3:26 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Joe :-) Welcome to SuN.

I think it`s commendable that you have this desire and dream of the nightclub. What I`d like to do is take a moment to remind you that nobody really cares how committed you are, how passionate you are, and how much you think about this idea. That`s not to discourage you, it`s to help you remove your feelings from the process of getting started, understand?

Now, after you step away from your feelings, let`s see what sort of reasoning, logic, analysis, and practical assessment you have. In other words, let`s say you want to take a trip from New York to Los Angeles. It`s wonderful that you`re passionate about it, you`ve dreamed of it, and you really are committed to taking that trip. But how is that going to get you to LA?

The first step is to begin a plan. You know where LA is, but do you know how far away it is from New York? That`s going to matter because you then can make choices based on your time allotment. For example, if you were 55, you might need to fly because it`s faster and you want to enjoy LA. But at 21, you might enjoy taking a train or driving, so you can see the country while you`re at it. Understand?

Some people would say, "I want to own my own nightclub within 2 years." Others would say, "I want to own my own nightclub within 10 years." What`s the deciding factor?

Some of those factors involve experience. If you were 40 and had worked as a bartender, club-manager, and Food & Beverages Director in many different types of clubs, then owning your own club in 2 years would be highly viable.

On the other hand, if you`ve never worked in a club, don`t understand the logistics of liquor, food services, entertainment, and union contractors, then you`ll need some time in order to gather that knowledge. See?

I think what you might enjoy at this juncture is to site down with a spreadsheet and begin "building" your nightclub on paper (virtual paper in a computer). Some of the things you could put into your spreadsheet would be:
  • What sort of booths, banquettes, tables and chairs will you buy: how many, and how much do they cost?
  • What type of bar will you install, made of what materials, in what shape, how long, and with what type of barstools?
  • What menu will you serve if you serve food. What hours will you serve food, who will serve it, and what type of kitchen and equipment will you need in order to serve that food---if you serve any food.
  • How large will you have your stage, what type of music will you hire, and what about lighting, dancing, and local noise ordinances?
  • What budget will you have for royalties paid on music you play in your club?
  • What type of carpeting will you install, how will you clean it, what equipment will you need, and who will do that cleaning?
  • What hours would you like to be open, and how do they fit in with local laws and zoning?
The point is that from the number of shot glasses and collins glasses, to the type of barstools, you`re going to need some numbers and manufacturer brand names. You`re going to need workmen and contractors to design and build this place. When you have a design in mind, you`ll need a sense of property values and a location for this club.

Will you have pool tables? Will it be a family place that disallows children after a certain hour? Will you hire in name acts, or local bands? Will it be music or comedy? Do you want a gay bar, cop bar, dinner & dancing crowd?

All these decisions take place long before you even come up with the first dollar. So you can begin this process and take as long as you`d like. At 21, you have plenty of time to begin a career in the food and beverage arena, focusing on clubs and resorts. That`ll give you real-world knowledge of inventory, stock, employment, logistics, and management. AND you`ll get paid while you`re learning. :-)
johnqh

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Oct 01, 2007 3:32 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You didn`t get it....it is not about "we could make it happen and make the place stand out so people say, "Wow, i never thought we could have a dance club like this".", it is about whether there will be enough people coming to your club to make it profitable.

You can create the coolest club on earth, but it won`t matter if nobody comes.

There are two immediate concerns:

First, among those 12,000 people, how many are in the right age group? If it is a college town, how many students are in the college?

Second, what`s the life style in the town? Do young people go out on weekends, or stay in with the family? Is it a college town? (sounds like it from your post)

My guess is, it is possible to have a small dance club, maybe for about 100 to 200 people. But Wal-Mart building? It is not a good business to have a huge space but not enough people to fill it. Start small.

And if it is a college town, find a place close to the campus, so the students can walk over there instead of driving.

CraigL

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Oct 01, 2007 4:37 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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The accoustics in a huge, cavernous building are a nightmare to work with. You`d have to invest a huge amount of money in baffling, and sound management.
Oct 01, 2007 5:03 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I agree with John.  Before you begin investing in your dream, it`s crucial to know your audience and understand how many people (i.e. how much business) you will get through the door.  Large, expansive locations cost a lot of money to manage and maintain.  You might freak out over the electricity bill.  These things might surprise you.

However, I really believe that if you`re going to move forward with this great idea that you must also consider what other uses for the club you can consider to help make money and maybe more than likely become a center of town/the county.  I`m sure there are a number of things ike high school proms, to name one.  You`ll be surprised when you look around and see how your location may be able to benefit the area.

I`ve worked in this industry from behind the counter to manager and marketing.  It is a very hard lifestyle and can be very difficult to make a decent profit in a large city let alone a smaller town.  I would carefully review what you want to accomplish and put real time in to outlining a plan.

Best of luck!  We know you`ll be a huge success!

Jennifer

JRizzle

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Oct 02, 2007 2:01 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thank you guys for the feedback. It what i need to hear. I fully understand what all of you are saying. Right now it`s all ideas and collecting thoughts and putting them on paper to see where it will all fit into place. Planning is key and for something like this i must plan carefully and fully. I appreciate all help and feedback and if you have any ideas or thoughts you`d like to throw out there please feel free to share.

Joe Ritter
excellentbars

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Hey JRizzle

  My Name is Chris and I have been opening and owing Bars and Nightclub for over 10 years and have a new Web-Site with lots of free info on how to get started..If you have any questions contact me and I can hope to help you create your dream...

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excellentbars2007-10-10 14:42:15


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