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Salesdude

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Jul 11, 2007 5:20 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I have to say that I love being able to chat with other like minded sales people. I`ve read some of the topics on "Closing Techniques" and some have been criticized for perhaps being yesterday`s news. My question would be, with sales being the oldest profession, is there anything really new? I would have to say "No". It`s all Sales 101 and Psychology 101. And it has not changed. You can spin it differently but it is still the art of "Communication and Persuasion". If anything has changed it is that it is no longer viewed as an adversarial relationship between buyer and seller and that is the way it should be.

Sales is the also the art of "Helping People Buy". If they want it, we help them to get there. Simple as that. Sometimes it takes a "Ben Franklin" to provide the customer with a little clarity in coming to their decision. Sometimes it needs a "Take Away" to allow everybody to focus on the issue, sometimes incorrect, that is at hand. And, I strongly believe that the buying process is extremely painful for all parties involved. The shopping, the deciding, the second guessing, the remorse. It`s no fun. At least it sure isn`t for me but, after I have written that check and started to enjoy my purchase, what I paid for it is the furthest thing from my mind (smile).

I`ll leave with this. The "Close" is absolutely the least important aspect of any sales cycle. People often tell me that if their sales people could only "close" effectively, they would all be millionaires. Fact is, if they could do the other 5 (or whatever number you want) previous steps in the sales cycle, the "close" would be the natural culmination of the sale.

I`d be interested in hearing other`s thoughts on this.

Thanks!

Cragi

 

 

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nhgnikole

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Jul 11, 2007 6:41 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I don`t know ... maybe I`m just bad at sales. But my thing is this - either they close themselves or it just doesn`t happen.
Salesdude

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Jul 11, 2007 10:50 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Well......there may be some truth to that. Certainly, there has to be an identified and agreed to need by the buyer. Although, often times there may be products or services out there that may be of benefit to us, as consumers, that we are not aware of. At that point, it is a sales person`s job to educate and create interest in the solution. And, it`s about solutions, not widgets. And we all have competition.

More of what I was poorly attempting to say is that for all the dozens and dozens of "cute" closes out there, and with equally cute names (smiles), if as a sales person you have done your job in listening, understanding, clarifying, presenting the appropriate solution, answering questions and concerns......there is no need to close. They will close themselves (smile). Hey, we`re on the same page (smile). Now, how many sales people do you know who can remotely perform those functions? Too darn few. The result: I don`t care what great close you use, you have not earned the right to get the business. Unless, of course, you are way low bid. And, "there ain`t no honor in being low bid"! (smile). Thanks for responding. Beats rambling to myself (smile),

Craig

 



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CraigL

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Jul 12, 2007 1:14 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I`ve found that a surreptitious display of a sawed-off shotgun is an effective way to close a sale. When I was in retail, using this technique I not only got 100% sales, but people asked if they could bring in lots of friends to also buy.



As for there having to be something new...why? I often say that there are still only 12 notes in an octave, yet we somehow manage to keep coming up with new, different, and interesting music, right?
Salesdude

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Jul 12, 2007 7:09 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Craig,

XLNT closing technique! XLNT closing ratio. And I`m amazed at the number of referrals (smile). And, you are correct. There is nothing new and there needs to be nothing new. We take the same fundamentals and make our own kind of selling music by arranging them in a different manner. Presenting them in a different key. However, unless we have the fuandamentals down, it sounds a lot like me playing my Fender. It`s not pretty (smile). I like your analogy.

Thanks!

Craig



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SalesPractice

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Jul 13, 2007 11:57 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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My question would be, with sales being the oldest profession, is there anything really new? I would have to say "No". It`s all Sales 101 and Psychology 101.[/quote]I believe at times sales can get a bit more complicated than Sales 101/Psychology101. Sharon Drew Morgen`s work on "Buying Facilitation" is a good example.

Salesdude

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Jul 13, 2007 12:08 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Jeff,

Never said it was easy (smile). Sales, I believe, is extremely complicated. Still, when it is all said and done, I believe that it goes back to the fundamentals. Now, how many sales people can actually, by reflex, exercise those fundamentals and adjust them to their own varied styles, preferably, with some degree of success? (smile)  Not too many I`m afraid. I`d love to see something truly "new" and will look into Sharon`s work.

Thanks!

Craig

 

 



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Salesdude

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Jul 13, 2007 12:39 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Jeff,

After reading Sharon`s first "free chapter", I`m going to qualify my statements. I will say that it all begins with the fundamentals. Maybe those are the "lower funnel" areas that she references. We build from the fundamentals up. Certainly, what Sharon is discussing is an advanced understanding, from what I can gather, of the process the buyer goes through, in their mind, when they are making that decision. Am I correct or did I miss it? (smile).

Granted, I am working off very little information found in that free chapter and, from looking at your website, which I bookmarked incidentally (impressive), I gather that you are quite involved in this program. What about it might you believe to be ground breaking?

Thanks!

Craig

P.S In looking at your website I saw a post from a new sales trainer named Craig James. My name is Craig Jamieson and I spent several years as a sales trainer and am considering re-entering that field via a slightly different vehicle. Please ask your Craig to stop using an abbreviated version of my name (smile)



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Jul 13, 2007 3:16 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Actually, this reference to fundamentals brings up a really important philosophic point. How does someone learn the process of extracting a basic concept?

We hear a lot, these days, about losing family values, the disappearing work ethic, "sales fundamentals," and so forth. Then there`s the old expressions, "break it down to the essentials," or "give me the synopsis."

One function of analysis (coming from a combination of the intellect and imagination) is to distill information down to its essentials. You`d think this would be something anybody can do. Many people don`t believe it`s really a skill, and that it isn`t a learned process.

I remember visiting my mom, my being divorced, and bringing my 8-yearold daughter at the time up there so we could see each other. My mother had run out of 8-gallon garbage bags---trashcan liners---so my daughter and I went to the store.

We went around to the trash bag aisle, and were looking for a new box. I took a box and was ready to go, but my daughter told me it was the wrong item. When I asked her what she meant, she told me that "Nana`s bags come in a blue box. These are in an orange box."

I told her that the main thing was that Nana`s trashcan was 8 gallons, and it didn`t matter what color box those bags came in as long as they would fit the trash container.

From there I realized it would be important to regularly educate my daughter in the idea of essential attributes. I wonder how many kids these days grow up without such an education? In which case, is "Sales 101" actually all that "obvious?"
Salesdude

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Jul 13, 2007 5:47 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Craig,

Wow! Brain overload. Brain overload (smile). Very heady stuff. I`m curious, and this is a question and in no way intended to be a statement, you feel that the ability to distill information is a skill and can not be learned? Would it be fair to say that we are talking about the ability to take specific occurences and, for lack of betters words, cross reference and apply previous experience, while not necessarily the same situation, to that occurence?

To your question is "Sales 101 all that obvious?" I would say "No". But that does not mean that there is no "Sales 101" (smile). I really have to apologize to everybody because my original topic was my contention that the act of "Closing" is the least important part of the selling process and should be the natural ending to the exercise if everything else, the fundamentals, was done correctly. This thing has really morphed into a much broader topic. I hope that is ok with everyone because I just love the free flow of ideas and new areas for me to ponder. (smile)

Thanks!

Craig 



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