Don`t count out network marketing style business models. There are some amazing new programs out there that are having success rates in the high 80% range vs. the days of old where the fail rates were higher than that.

There are full turn key marketing systems included with these new systems. Some of them out there now are paying 100% commission and offerring a no selling plan. Where they will make all the sales for you and the conversion rates are huge.

There is very little investment with these as well. So almost anyone can afford them. For around $650.00 you can have a turn key business. With a complete proven marketing system that works. All you need is 2 qualifying sales which they will make for you and you are eligable to make $500 commission on evey sale after that.

Sound too good to be true? It`s not.

Rob

Thanks for the information, Rob. What MLM are you describing?

Thanks,

Paul

Paul

There are a couple of them doing this right now. But they aren`t really MLM`s. I think ther are calling them leveraged marketing. In an MLM you rely on your down line heavily. You really can`t make any money with out a strong down line. The new ones I am talking about are not designed this way.

In most MLM`s you`ll need so many sales to qualify for a check and then your check is peanuts. You end up just making the guy above you rich. These I am describing you only need 2 sales to be qualified. Once your are qualified you`ll make full commission on each sale.

Global resorts is my new fav..

http://yshonline.com/global.htm

Easy Daily Cash is another good one
http://www.yshonline.com/edcinfo.shtml
This one is a little cheaper at around $350 by the time all is said and done pitched at $297. They pay out 100% of the 297 after your first to sales. This one list he owners names and direct phone numbers right on the sales page.

These two have huge income potential. 

There is some more information about them on my website.

http://www.yshonline.com

Rob

I have to add my two  cents  and we  all know  it will end up about 4 1/2 cents  worth by time I`m done But  I love Network Marketing aka MLM,aka  what ever other name  you want to slapon it  to try toget away from the MLM stigma.

Rob  you didn`t  mention  once, at least I didnt see it,  what either of those companies offer as a product or service,  anytime I see "look how  easy it is" and  "how much money you can make," I  am  very leary.  if they dont  have a product  or service worthly of participation  and  the dream ofmaking the big  bucks is the bigest selling point,and the main source of income  of  getting  other people to join   dishing out the big  cash,   I  can not see it being successful  and  have  never  seen one  provide long term  success.

those types  of  programs ( and  i`m not  saying  yours are  because  I  didnt  even  see  enough positive info to make me want to even click on the link , as a  matter of fact  I  have  seen enough  just the contrary but like i said I didnt, and dont  know  first hand ) remind my of teenagers, they think they have  all the answers  and  as we all know they don`t.  Everybody has to learn it on there own  even though  the answers  are  right there  in from of them,  Your parentsand  the generation  beforeyouhave  already  lived it, is it that hard  to  just  ave a  littlefaith that they  may  know something  you don`t. 

MY  4  cents  worth  is just  about  up

These  types of networking (waite lets put a fancy name  on it to make it look like  something  special) programs have  been around  for years  they  change the names  , they change  the  cost and payment structures  but  they all dothe same thing,  give  money  to those  who start it and  a few others   but there is  no  true wealth available to the whole structure because for the most part it is  just the transference of money.

With that  said,  I  believe  everybody  should  try one  or  two  out.  why  it is a cheap learrning lesson, pick some  really  cheap programs  because  the  value  of the learning lesson  is equal whether  you paid 20$  or  a  grand.

mike  out

sorry I forgot one  last  thought, 

If that type of program was  so sure  fired guaranteed why doesnt  someone  with  real money  try to legitimize it.   If there  was a  legitimate  money  making opportunity  then wall street  and  other  truely successful business people  would  have already  done  it.

A goodexample iswhen  you see these  opportunities  that  start to throw  around  figures  like  you can make 200,000$ a  year.   If it were  that easy then why dont these people  trying to get you involved  simply hire someone else and pay them 10-15$  an hour  to  do the  work  and  keep the remaining 170,000$  themselves???  I know I would...

mike

lets  talk about a dream opportunity.

A company that will purchase  or help develop as a joint venture, any Viable Product, service or process innovation.

A company with the available funding and ability to finance any of the above formentioned innovations.

A Company  with the  market to ensure that each  viable idea is successful.

Now that  is an opportunity,   the opportunity to realize a market for your intellectual property  

A Dream Opportunity??  or A Real Possibility???

I`msure  youallknow what I think..

MIke

Mike

 You have some good thoughts. Let me give you my take on some of the things that you have mentioned. First on the product:

The 1 Step System is just that. 1 Step. (Catchy huh?).... The product they are selling is called the marketers took kit. This product comes with so many unbelievable things. It is a complete a to z package with everything you need to success fully market a product. Not just MLM or any other acronym you want to throw out there, but any product at all. This system has taught me more about marketing then what I have learned in the last 7 years trying to make money on the internet. There is over $2000.00 worth of audio training E-Books and Software on information marketing, selling strategies, advertising, and internet marketing. This alone has been worth 5X the price of admission for me. This was the best money I have ever spent dollar for dollar. This is a product I can truly stand behind and feel good when I sell it to someone else. If I can make $500.00 a sale while I am doing it so be it.

Think about it if I was to go to trade schools to try and learn everything this system can teach me it would cost me thousands of dollars and take me years to learn. I’m not saying I can learn it through osmosis now but I have a ready need for it now to market and sell the product. This will motivate me to learn it faster. I will be getting hands on real world training. I guess I could go to technical schools and learn it, then try to apply it in the real world and find out I wasted all my money on a piece of paper and now I have to actually learn what they claimed they were teaching me and charged me thousands of dollars for. You should get my point….  

Now for the big business. I am going to enjoy this part.

The big companies are doing it right now and have been for years. They call them salespeople and they pay them a crappy salary or commission. Think about a salesperson or affiliate is just a fancy name for network marketer. They are getting paid to sell a product for a company. Fortune 500’s type’s waste a ton of money on advertising and their corporate salaries, jets, fancy hotels, ETC. With this type of business model the marketer or affiliate takes the hit on advertising if he chooses to. Big businesses are going to have to change their ways soon. Today’s advancements in day to day lifestyles TIVO and such, is making it harder and harder to effectively advertise.

There are plenty of midsized companies networking right now. I see affiliate stuff from my local phone company, Direct TV, Mark Kay, Longeberger, Simply Tasteful, the list can go on. Most of these still have crappy pay scales. I think the main reason people have a huge problem with networking is the stigma that was created from days of old with Amway, the phone company one and a lot of the others where only the people at the top levels make the money.

The new style systems still allow the higher up’s to make more money like a corporate head would. While allowing the newer marketer to replace his investment and start making a noticeable amount of money in just a few weeks, depending on how hard he works. Look at some business statistics. 90% of small business fail It cost over $100,000.00 to start any brick and mortar type business which are losers for the first 5 years if they succeed 5 years at all. Did I mention over 90% fail.

So for my small fee I have a home based business that I can work as much or as little as I want. I can work from home in my spare time to supplement my current salary or I can go full tilt and try to make it my life. This business has everything one needs to succeed. It has proven and tested formulas that work. It is going to teach me what I need to know not only to be successful but valuable life lessons I can apply for the rest of my life. Get this they are going to pay me as well.

This is a no brainer! You will only not succeed if you don’t apply your self.

Do you think your brick and mortar business will last forever? Small businesses are closing every day. If the company goes away in a few years so be it I will feel bad but I will know 90% of the people below me did not loose their retirement, medical or everything they worked the last 20 years for. Just to be tossed out on the road by some corporate head from Ford or such that has no loyalty to it’s employees. We made our money while it was going strong hopefully we invested it well and can live off it until we find the next wave.

Bottom line businesses fail everyday from large brick mortar type to MLM and such. There is no difference in my mind. Only difference here is I have the ability make very large sum of money while this one is running strong. At Ford all I can make is a salary. In my own brick mortar type business I would have way to much too lose and a long hard road to success. If I make it I still could loose it all by some Wallmart type coming into my town 8 years from now.

Thanks for your comments. I doubt I can change your mind but hopefully I have given you some valid point to consider. Plus now I have some good text for my website.....

Rob

Here is the link again maybe I have earned a click now.

http://www.yshonline.com

Ok Rob  lets do it, because I did  see something I liked.

The 1 Step System is just that. 1 Step. (Catchy huh?).... The product they are selling is called the marketers took kit. ...... This alone has been worth 5X the price of admission for me. ..

Ok now you have my ear. The product you are offering is impressive assuming that the person purchasing it learns enough from it to make it worth it.  FYI I purchased a book for 20$ titled 1001 ways to promote your business.   It is going to be hard for me to believe  your info is going to cover more than that  and  that what I already know,  But  I`m sure  or at least hope it will. 

I will have to add one thing .  the product  may very interesting to you and me but I do feel there is a limited market for it.  Not everybody is interested  in owning their own business ( that would need marketing)  I am trying to figure out why this is so at the moment, questioning people why they don`t want to own a business . 

FYI, Today I had one reply  that people don`t want to take the risk  and I replied that working for someone else  (IMHO) takes on just as much risk if not more

1. Unless you have something really special you are never going to make any real money ( a risk in itself)
2. Just as if you were to own your own business , if your boss makes the wrong decision and the business goes bankrupt, then your still out of a job
3. if you get stuck with a boss that doesnt like you  then you`ll wish you were out of a job,

The only thing I canfigure out is that its the perceiption of what owning a business entails that they are afraid of,   Can anybody help me out here??

Think about it if I was to go to trade schools...  

yes I do  and I can agree very much so  if the information is indeed as you describe it  

Now for the big business. I am going to enjoy this part.

The big companies are doing it right now and have been for years. They call them salespeople and they pay them a crappy salary or commission. Think about a salesperson or affiliate is just a fancy name for network marketer.

I agree

They are getting paid to sell a product for a company. Fortune 500’s type’s waste a ton of money on advertising and their corporate salaries, jets, fancy hotels, ETC. With this type of business model the marketer or affiliate takes the hit on advertising if he chooses to. Big businesses are going to have to change their ways soon. Today’s advancements in day to day lifestyles TIVO and such, is making it harder and harder to effectively advertise.

I agree.   The way business will be conducted  in ten years from now  will look nothing like it does today,  not neccessarily because of what you said  because network marketer have been saying it for years,   but because of other factors.

There are plenty of midsized companies networking right now. I see affiliate stuff from my local phone company, Direct TV, Mark Kay, Longeberger, Simply Tasteful, the list can go on. Most of these still have crappy pay scales. I think the main reason people have a huge problem with networking is the stigma that was created from days of old with Amway, the phone company one and a lot of the others where only the people at the top levels make the money.

I agree  again

The new style systems still allow the higher up’s to make more money like a corporate head would. While allowing the newer marketer to replace his investment and start making a noticeable amount of money in just a few weeks,,....

I haven`t seen the program on the market to make that possible yet

 depending on how hard he works. Look at some business statistics. 90% of small business fail It cost over $100,000.00 to start any brick and mortar type business which are losers for the first 5 years if they succeed 5 years at all. Did I mention over 90% fail.

Yes many businesses do fail within the first few years but FYI.. I was reading a book about how that figure isnt as high as everybody makes it out to be...  That figure doesnt take in consideration  the business that rename or change structure  Ie from sole proprietorship to a corporation  and a few other factors mentioned..  But I will agree that a very high percentage fail.

.

Thanks for your comments. I doubt I can change your mind but hopefully I have given you some valid point to consider. Plus now I have some good text for my website.....

Rob

well Rob, your product as described  is worthly,  I was pleasantly surprised, although I still feel if someone wanted that same information  they could have it with less than a 50$ investment in books that are on the market.

As far as changing my mind   you may not believe me  but  If I were to put together a letter on the topic  it would sound so close to what you had written.  My only issue is the product you are offering.  I simply dont think it is good enough,  I want to work a program I know  will be around  for ever,  and yes there is one  out there,  I have found it  and just need to develop it. 

Opportunity,  it is something everybody wants,   the opportunity for more,  the opportunity to be able to prove themselves  as a football player, professional poker player, bowler, baseball, entreprenuer, sales person, software programmer, actor  and i can go on and on.

I like your attitude.  your drive  your desire

Mike

I would just like to touch on a couple of things. You stated there may not be a lot of interest for this product. Here I really have to disagree.

If you look at the search history for the word marketing it will show you exactly the opposite. The word marketing was searched 1,123,521 times last month in Yahoo. Yes that is 1 million. Google`s volume will typically be 8 to 10 times that of Yahoo`s volume. That`s another 9 million or so at Google. Those are just 2 search engines and they total over 10 million searches last month alone. These are all people interested in marketing.

That looks like a pretty big market to me when you consider you brick and mortar business in a city of 100,000. Maybe 10% of those people have a need for what you are selling (10,000). Then maybe 10% of those people show up at your door and buy something (1000). Now you have all the over head to toss on top plus the cost of the product you are selling with a 20% profit margin if you are lucky and you end up with nothing but a lot of work and minimal profits. 

Iy you look at the internet business if only 1% of these 10 million people had an interest in what I was selling that is 100,000 potential customers a month. I have almost no overhead except for my advertising cost. Which there is a ton of free advertising on the web. (The system shows you all of this.) The product I resell has no cost to me, it sells for $597.00 of which I make 83% commission or $500.00. Let’s say 1% of the 100,000 found my webpage. That’s 1,000 people lets say I sold 1% of those people. That is 10 sales times 500.00 that is 5,000 a month income. Selling just 1% of  1% of the actual people interested. This does not take into account the people who may be interested in my product strictly from a network marketing or mlm perspective to simple make money.

Remember the internet is world wide. Anyone who can read English is a potential customer.

As for the pay scale follow this link I think you will be amazed. There is a good video at the bottom of the page that shows step by step how it works.

http://www.18309.1stepsystem.com/index.php?page=opportunity& amp;theme=1

Rob

A couple of things I forgot to mention.

Every sale I bring in has to give me their first 2 sales. You`ll see this in the video. So my downline will also be working for me for a short time. If they make sales I get the 500 for their first 2. Then they make the comission.

The second thing is is this system is automated. You are not talikng to people or selling people. The system does it for you. I put my time in advertising for free to drive traffic to my site thats it. The system works while I am sleeping, on vacation, at my "for now" real job.

Again this is a no brainer.

Rob