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Mommy2two

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Apr 30, 2008 9:53 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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   Hi. I`m new here.
   I want to turn my hobby into a business. I know I can be a successful business so now I want to make it legitimate.
   I`m in NY. I have been talking to a SCORE counselor and he told me to get an EIN and file the necessary information my tax forms using the section "C". That seems easy enough but when I read about EIN`s I don`t think that applies to me. I`m just going to be in business by myself and I`ll never hire any employees. Just me, myself and I. EIN`s seem more for people who are going to have employees. If it`s just me do I need an EIN?
   I also asked him about a business license but he seems to lean towards the EIN. Don`t I need a license too?
   If there are people here who started a home business in NY where you are the only employee, how do I go about doing it? Is there a step by step check list I can go by?
   ANY assistance would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
Kimberly
 
 
wtgg

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Apr 30, 2008 11:02 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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not sure about NY, but in Conn. and New Jersey, you can go to the county clerks office file a "DBA" then take that paper to the bank open an account, then file the rest of the papers online.
EIN`s have other uses as well, I`d imagine your score adviser is looking out for your best interest, and I`d follow their advise or get another advisor and opinion.
just a thought
Stan
 
SherylCPA

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Apr 30, 2008 12:09 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Kimberly,

Sole proprietors aren`t required to have an EIN, but I always advise my clients to get one for these reasons:

1. It makes it easier to keep your business and personal transactions separate.

2. It shows the IRS that you`re serious about being in business.

3. It serves as a layer of identity protection for you since you won`t have to be giving out your social security number to lots of folks.

As far as a "business license" goes, that depends on your business and the requirements in the State of NY and your local community.  Look here:

http://www.nysegov.com/citGuide.cfm?superCat=28&cat=29&a mp;a mp;content=main

You might also want to read my free report on business startup.

Best of luck to you.

Sheryl

SherylCPA2008-4-30 13:44:4
Mommy2two

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Apr 30, 2008 12:48 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thank you both very much for taking the time to reply to my post. I appreciate that a lot.

So I certainly need to get an EIN. At least that is one thing I can add to my check list.

I`d be selling personalized button, magnets, key chains and candy wrappers. I`d be thrilled to profit $50 a month! I`d say keep it a hobby but everyone keeps telling me to make it a business, so... that is what I`m trying to do. But the less confusing and less expensive for me to start up the better. It`s not worth being totally stressed out over such a piddly amount of profits.

Thanks so much!!

Kimberly

 

 

 

 

 

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Engraver

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May 01, 2008 12:18 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Are you dealing with wholesale suppliers? I have a few suppliers that would not sell to me until I got an EIN.
My personal oppinion is go ahead and get an EIN and a Business license. Even if you only plan to keep your business with just you and no one else, get it filed as an LLC as soon as you can. It means for extra paperwork, but down the line if something happens, it is only going to hit the business end of things and not tap into your personal funds, etc.
Mommy2two

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May 01, 2008 6:29 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks!!!!
 
This is all pretty scary. Here I thought it was as simple as 1-2-3 but now I`m begining to think it`s going to be more stress then anything else. I never thought about LLC and libilities and things like that. YIKES!
 
Thank you so very much for the GREAT information!
 
Kimberly
winston2

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May 01, 2008 1:57 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Kimberly,
I have helped several businesses get started, I also council at
Score. Message me here on SUN and I would be glad to help you get started
I have some good ideas to expand you business.
Martin
skipshoe

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May 01, 2008 2:05 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Kimberly,

There is a lot of good advice above on why you should get an EIN.  However, in the spirit of keeping it simple, you can always start as a "sole proprietor" - which just means you are an individual running your business.   Make a folder for your business expenses and keep track of your income. 

Beyond that, you should determine if you have to collect sales tax and whether you have any special licensing needs for your product.

You can always apply for an EIN later - after you determined that your "hobby turned business" is going to stick.

- Skip





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Mommy2two

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May 01, 2008 2:29 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks everyone!!!
 
I did get an EIN this morning as a sole proprietor since it`s just me and I have no plans in the future to hire anyone. If I do, or things get better then I anticipate, maybe I will down the road. But for now the EIN as a sole proprietor seemed best.
 
I`m still wondering about the business license/certificate. My EIN is in my name. I don`t plan on doing business under an assumed name or anything like that. Yeah, I gave my new little business a name just to make it look nice, but I`m not going to use that as my identity. My identity is my name. Does that make sense? I think  I`m confusing myself. Ha Ha.
 
Do I need a business license/certificate even if I`m not working under a "DBA" sort of thing? Meaning... does all businesses, regardless of what they are, require a certificate/license?
 
I checked. I don`t need any permits, which is one less worry.
 
I also don`t understand the sales tax thing. Do I have to collect sales tax from people who buy from me? Do I only collect from people who buy from me who are in the same state as me? How does that all work?
 
I`m still just as confused, if not more, as I was before... except for now I have an EIN.
 
Kimberly
SherylCPA

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May 01, 2008 3:19 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Keeping things simple, especially at the beginning, is always a good idea.

You`ll probably need to spend a little bit of time on the Internet, researching the various rules and regulations that will apply to your particular situation.  It`s not hard and it will be well worth your time.

Look here http://www.tax.state.ny.us/sbc/starting_business.htm

There appear to be several links relating to sales tax info.

It`s always a good idea, if you can, to go to the original source for the various regulations.  Laws do change; something that might have been true for another business owner when he/she got started might not be true for you today.

 

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