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Jan 07, 2007 12:38 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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If the SuN Project was to offer a product or service, what would it need to offer to get people to purchase them???

How about if I rephrase the question...  If a new business was to open, what would it have to offer, for you to want to purchase from them instead of their competition?

 Assuming you are in the market for the products/services in which they are offering.

Lets call them consumer incentives  (programs which will make consumers want to purchase from said business first).

Can we list any??

Michael T

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Jan 07, 2007 5:15 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I don`t know if I`m reading your question correctly, Are you asking: What do I need for my customers to notice my product and how am I going to persuade people to purchase from me instead of someone else?

Well, for one your product must be good. The price must be either lower or competitive with another business that`s been in business for a long time.

Most of all, you need to greet your customers with a smile and even if your customers are savy`s, offer them help. Ask questions such as: May I help you?
Did you find what you are looking for? And... the biggest rule of them all, start simple conversation with them. Make them feel like a friend and not a customer. "Break the Ice" and if there`s a product that they need that you don`t offer, take their information and tell them that you will order it and will have it soon.
This will make them want to come back



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Jan 08, 2007 12:16 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I`ll take that as one vote for fanatical customer service ( as my current employer has stated it).

IMHO that is a given.  I get the impression that this isn`t the norm for most businesses. 

It is where I am currently employed, at least at my store.

I believe that every product, service process and program can be improved upon.  The only way to do this is to identify all potenial problems and then come up with a solution for them. So I would like to discuss what you posted.

...your product must be good.

I have never worked for an employer where there was an  attitude that their product/service wasn`t good.   As far as that goes I have never heard of a business that did think that what they offered was inferior.  Whos pizza is better? Pizza Hut or Dominoes...  Which Office Supply  store is better?  Office Depot, Office Max or Staples?  Will any one of these stand out above the rest... Who has the best customer service??

The price must be either lower or competitive with another business that`s been in business for a long time.

I guess there are different market segments,  some are more price sensitive than others. but to make a broad stroke that you can not offer the most expensive product or service seems to be limiting.   If you can make the customer feel there is value spending more with your firm then they will patronize you.

The rest sounds to be all about being friendly and offering good customer service.  As stated above I feel that is a given. 

Ok, you open a business, you offer great customer service, it even can be considered to be the best.  You start making money, really good money.  Competition starts to realize that your secrete is all about customer service and before you know it your market is completely saturated.   Everybody has great customer service, now what is it that is going to differentiate your business from the rest.  ???

 

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Hi Michael,

Thought you may find interesting reading chapter 13 "Meeting the Competition" from `Made in America` by Sam Walton, so I scanned for ya. There are typographical errors as this OCR program is not the best but you should be able to understand it.

 

13

Meeting The Competition

`Sam phoned to tell me he was going to start a wholesale club. It was no surprise. He is notorious for looking at what everybody else does, taking the best of it, and then making it better."

— sol price,
founder1955Fed-Mart,
and founder
—1976—Price Club

I don`t know what would have happened to Wal-Mart if we had laid low and never stirred up the petition. My guess is that we would have remained strictly regional operator. Then, eventually, I think would have been forced to sell out to some national looking for a quick way to expand into the heart-market. Maybe there would have been 100 or 150 Sal-Marts on the street for a while, but today they

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would all have Kmart or Target signs in front of them, and I would have become a full-time bird hunter.

We`ll never know, because we chose the other route. We decided that instead of avoiding our competitors, or waiting for them to come to us, we would meet them head-on. It was one of the smartest strategic decisions we ever made. In fact, if our story doesn`t prove anything else about the free market system, it erases any doubt that spirited competition is good for business—not just customers, but the companies which have to compete with one another too. Our competitors have honed and sharpened us to an edge we wouldn`t have without them. We wouldn`t be nearly as good as we are today without Kmart, and I think they would admit we`ve made them a better retailer. One reason Sears fell so far off the pace is that they wouldn`t admit for the longest time that Wal-Mart and Kmart were their real competition. They ignored both of us, and we both blew right by them.

bud walton:

"Competition is very definitely what made Wal-Mart—from the very beginning. There`s not an individual in these whole United States who has been in more retail stores—all types of retail stores too, not just discount stores—than Sam Walton. Make that all over the world. He`s been in stores in Australia and South America, Europe and Asia and South Africa. His mind is just so inquisitive when it comes to this business. And there may not be anything he enjoys more than goin§ into a competitor`s store trying to learn something from it."

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At first, we only butted heads with other regional discounters, like Gibson`s and the Magic Mart discount division of Sterling. We didn`t compete directly with Kmart. To put things into perspective, compare Kmart and Wal-Mart after they had both been on the street : r ten years. Our fifty-plus Wai-Marts and eleven variety stores were doing about $80 million a year in sales compared to Kmart`s five hundred stores doing more than $3 billion a year. But Kmart had interested me ever since the first store went up in 1962.1 was in their stores constantly because they were the laboratory, and they were better than we were. I spent a heck of a lot of my time wandering through their stores talking to dieir people and trying to figure out how they did things.

 

For a long time, I had been itching to try our luck with them, and finally, in 1972, we saw a perfect opportunity in Hot Springs, Arkansas—a much larger city than we were accustomed to moving into but still ciose to home and full of customers we understood. We saw Kmart sitting there all alone, really having their with the market. They had no competition, and I Iike their prices and margins were so high that they almost weren`t even discounting. We sent Phil Green in to `Open store number 52, which, you may remember, is where he stirred up all the fuss with the world`s largest Tide display and all his other outrageous promotions. He cut prices to the bone and stole a bunch of Kmart`s customers.

Coincidentally, it was right about that time that Harry Cunningham chose to retire as the CEO of I Kmart, which he had founded while he was chairman S. S. Kresge. This was a big break for us. Harry was

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really the guy who, in just ten years, had legitimized the discount industry and made Kmart into the model for us all—though my good friend, John Geisse, who helped found the Target and Venture stores, was another pioneer way ahead of his time.

harry cunningham:

"From the time anybody first noticed Sam, it was obvious he had adopted almost all of the original Kmart ideas. I always had great admiration for the way he implemented—and later enlarged on— those ideas. Much later on, when I was retired but still a Kmart board member, I tried to advise the company`s management of just what a serious threat I thought he was. But it wasn`t until fairly recently that they took him seriously."

I guess we really were a flea attacking an elephant, and the elephant didn`t respond right away. Maybe Harry`s right. Maybe they didn`t take us seriously until much later. But I always believed it made them mad, our going in on them like that in Hot Springs. Just a few years later, around 1976 and 197" we definitely got the message that Kmart—with 1,000 stores—thought Wal-Mart—with 150—had gotten too big for its britches. All of a sudden they took a direct shot right into our backyard, by opening up in four of our better towns: Jefferson City and Poplar Bluff, M: souri; and Fayetteville and Rogers, Arkansas. They were expanding like that all over the country at the time, and all the regional discounters were worried. In 1976, we had a session of our discounters` trade group in Phoenix, and a lot of guys were talking about ways to

 

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avoid competing with Kmart directly. I got a little mad, and told everybody they ought to stand up and fight them. I made it clear we planned to.

b fisher, founder, chairman, and ceo, sway corporation:

"Kmart was opening so many stores it was regarded as the Genghis Khan of the discounting business. Sam has always been clear about his attitude: `Meet them head-on. Competition will make us a better company.`

"He is that way with everyone. Personally, he`s such a fine, unassuming, quiet gentleman. But he`s always picking your brain, and he always has a notebook or that tape recorder. He`ll learn everything you know, but he shares his information freely with you in return.

"Now, of course, he`s a competitor to James-way. But he wouldn`t ever apologize for that. He thinks it makes us a better company. And he`s right."

Something else happened in late 1976 which really helped us gear up for competition. A re-jearch group set up by a bunch of us regional Ascounters—who at the time didn`t compete in each other`s territories—had its first meeting here in Bentonville. Guys like Herb Fisher of Jamesway, and Herb Gillman of Ames, and Dale Worman of Fred I Meyer all came down here and went through our bines to give us their opinion of how they thought we were doing. And, man, what they had to say really shocked us.

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nick white, executive vice president,

wal-mart:

"Bill Fields was running the Rogers store, Dean Sanders was running Siloam Springs, and I was running Springdale—all close to Bentonville—so we were all on the tour. These guys—the presidents of all these companies—they just ripped our stores apart, telling us how poorly we did everything. `The signing isn`t worth a damn.` `You`ve got your prices too high on this.` `This stuff isn`t even priced.` `You`ve got too much of this and not enough of that.` I mean, it was really critical."

That was really a turning point in our business. We listened to everything they had to say, and made huge adjustments based on those critiques. It helped us gear up for any competition, especially Kmart, whose attack on us was probably the best single external event in Wal-Mart`s history. We pulled ourselves together and designed a big plan—a promotional program and a people program and a merchandising program—for how we were going to react. Since our run on Kmart in Hot Springs had turned out well, we were confident we could compete.

THOMAS JEFFERSON:

"Kmart really took us on in about 1977, and I remember Little Rock particularly. They took us on there in North Little Rock, where store number 7 had been one of our better stores. They got aggressive, and we fought back. We told our manager there, `No matter what, don`t let them undersell you at all, on anything.` I remember he called me one Saturday night and said, `You know,

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we have Crest toothpaste down to six cents a tube now.` And I said, `Well, just keep it there and see what they do.` They didn`t lower it any more than that, and we both just kept it at six cents. Finally, they backed off. I always thought they learned something about us at that store—that we don`t bend easy—because they never came at us with that degree of price cutting anywhere else."

We got so much better so quickly it was hard to believe. We totally stood Kmart off in those small stores of ours. Almost from the beginning, they weren`t very successful at taking our customers away in Jeff City and Poplar Bluff. Once Kmart arrived, we worked even harder at pleasing our customers, and they stayed loyal. This gave us a great surge of confidence in ourselves.

But at the time, remember, our sales were about 5 percent of Kmart`s. And we had recently suffered that exodus of executives following the Ron Mayer departure. So we were having a heck of a time convincing Wall Street to stick with us. A lot of people didn`t think we could stand up to real competition. One analyst, Margo Alexander of Mitchell Hutchins Inc., really worried about the exodus in her report on Wal-Mart. She wondered if it wouldn`t discourage other executives from coming on board. She said they might see an inevitable conflict with "the entrepreneur who will never be satisfied with another person running Tiis` company," in other words, me. She also questioned whether I, having retired once, was as committed to running the business as I had been previously.

Here`s some of what she wrote about us in Janu-arv of 1977:

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One of the key elements in Wal-Mart`s success has been the lack of competition in its small, rural markets ... It is clearly easier to operate in this land of situation than in a competitive one: pricing need not be so sharp, and the "right" merchandise is less critical, simply because customers have no alternative . . . Although Wal-Mart says its stores compete effectively against Kmart, the company will avoid a Kmart if possible. While we don`t expect Kresge to stage any massive invasion of Wal-Mart`s existing territory, Kresge could logically act to contain Wal-Mart`s geographical expansion . . . Assuming some containment policy on Kresge`s part, Wal-Mart could run into serious problems in the next few years.

We would very much like to recommend purchase of the stock . . . Unfortunately, however, the future of the company appears uncertain, and we think that Wal-Mart is one of those threshold companies that runs the risk of stumbling.

Reports like that one didn`t help us much, but the truth is that her analysis of the situation wasn`t necessarily as wrong as it looks today. All those things could have come true. She missed a few key points, though. Her biggest mistake was the uncertainty she felt about the management team that followed Ron Mayer. As I said earlier, having David Glass and Jack Shewmaker both on board in senior positions gave us about as much talent under one roof as any one retailer could ever hope to have. In recent years, I`ve taken a lot of pride in the fact that our fastest expansion—the greatest growth period in the history of retail—actually

 

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came after everybody thought our goose was cooked *nd ready to be eaten by the Kmart folks from Detroit.

Another point missed by Margo Alexander and others was that a very fortunate thing happened to us on the competitive front: Kmart was developing its iwn problems. Toward the end of 1976, they had purchased more than two hundred store locations left over from the defunct Grant`s chain, and they had their hands full trying to make that work. Not only that, they ieemed to have a management philosophy at the time of avoiding all change, something that never works in this business. I`m sure that worrying about Wal-Mart fell way down on their priority list, and I occasionally think back to how lucky we were not to have had to face Harry Cunningham—or Kmart`s current management team—during that period.

Regardless of what was going on at Kmart, the

team we had in place in Bentonville by the late seventies had us well positioned for the next decade of growth. It was around this same time that many of the high-flying promoters in the discounting business be-zan to struggle for their lives. The national economy weakened in the mid-seventies, and the intense competition among the real merchants began to drive the fast-buck types out of the business. The more efficient Kmart, Target, Wal-Mart, and some of the regionals became, and the more we bumped into each other in c-ompetitive situations, the more we were able to lower prices.

The percentage of gross margin in this industry— really, the markup on merchandise—has dropped steadily from around 35 percent in the early sixties to only 22 percent today. Almost all of that represents increased value and savings to the customers who shop

 

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discount stores. So the guys who weren`t running efficient operations, who had taken on lots of debt and were living high and not taking care of their associates, who weren`t scrambling around to get the best deals on merchandise and passing those deals on to their customers, these guys got into trouble. When we saw Kmart headed right after us in 1976 and 1977, we decided we could pick up some speed in our expansion efforts by acquiring some struggling discounters.

Because Wal-Mart had always been such a homegrown operation, this whole period sparked a lot of philosophical debate around our offices, and, frankly, I changed sides so often that I drove everybody involved pretty crazy. I didn`t have many problems at all with our first real acquisition, which came in 1977. My brother Bud and David Glass negotiated a deal to buy a small chain called Mohr Value discount stores up in Illinois. Their stores had been averaging $3 million to $5 million a year per store, and it seemed like a good way to put a beachhead into some new territory. We closed five stores and converted the remaining sixteen to Wai-Marts, and it wasn`t much of a shock to our system.

It sure didn`t slow us down any because two years later, in 1979, with about 230 stores on the street, we hit a billion dollars in sales for the first time. Of all the milestones we ever reached, that one probably impressed me the most. I have to admit, I was amazed that Wal-Mart had turned into a billion-dollar company. But I couldn`t see any logic to stopping there, and right about then another acquisition opportunity came our way.

This one was a good bit more disruptive, but it helped us make a geographic leap that was very impor-

 

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tant to our expansion. A lot of people back East who don`t know much about Wal-Mart still think of us today as a "Southern" discount operator. Maybe it`s because we`re in Arkansas, which most people think of as a Southern state, even though where we are is really more Midwestern. Or maybe it`s because of our downhome image. But the truth is that until 1981, we had almost no stores east of the Mississippi. We were big in Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Texas, but had nothing in Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, or the Carolinas. We weren`t much of a competitor in the South at all.

On the other hand, Kuhn`s Big K stores had become a good-sized player in the South. Based in Nashville, Tennessee, Kuhn`s had started as a single variety store back sometime before 1920. Jack Kuhn and his brother Gus had converted the company into a discounter, made an acquisition or two, and grown it into a chain of 112 stores, concentrated in Tennessee, but also doing business in Kentucky, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina—all states where we thought we could do well. We were a good bit bigger than they •a ere, but the two of us had been watching each other pretty closely. It was sort of like the old variety store days when one chain, like TG&Y, wouldn`t go into the territory of another chain, like Hested`s. We knew that one way or another we had to head on into the South, and I guess we stirred them up by crossing the Mississippi and opening a store in Jackson, Tennessee. They retaliated by opening stores in West Helena and Blytheville, Arkansas. The truth is, we were closing in on Kuhn`s and really doing a better job than they were. In fact, they were beginning to falter. They had taken

 

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on some debt and built a fancy headquarters building. And they were showing some losses.

I had a heck of a time making up my mind what to do. I wanted to get into that territory before Kmart or somebody else woke up and stole our thunder there. It seemed like a great competitive move to make. But we`d never bitten off anything close to this size before, and we didn`t know what it would be like trying to digest it. We went round and round on it. We were on again, off again for probably two years. Finally, the Executive Committee sat down to vote on it one morning, and it came out split right down the middle, fifty-fifh. It was just as well because it gave me the opportunity to take the ultimate responsibility for the decision. The whole thing had been really cloudy all along, with a lot of arguing. Finally, I voted to do it. We didn`t knov how to go about folding Kuhn`s into Wal-Mart, but we put Paul Carter in charge and he commuted back and forth between Nashville and Bentonville for quite a while.

PAUL CARTER, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, WAL`MART:

"It was one of the few times we ever saw the chairman use his prerogative and say, `We are going to do this.` It was a new land of proposition for Wal-Mart. At first we thought we were going to run everything from Nashville, as a separate division. Then we changed our minds and decided to close all their offices down and bring everytl over here. It was the furthest out we`d ever been geographically, and, looking back, I guess the decision to run it from here had a big influence on

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how we`ve run the company ever since, with all the regional managers based in Bentonville.

"I went over there to Big K weighing 190 pounds and came back at 165. It was a struggle for all of us involved, and a stretch for the whole company. But I`m not sure that`s not good for every organization at some point. Jack Shewmaker took the situation as an opportunity to learn and implement a lot about communications in a spread-out situation. Hard as it was, the Big K thing was really good for this company. It was like a caterpillar that turns into a butterfly. As a company, we were really ready to fly after we emerged from that one."

We closed down some of Kuhn`s money-losing stores, and for the first time we tried to supply our stores using an outside company, a third-party distributor, which didn`t work at all. But once we figured out how to handle it, the acquisition put us in a great position for growth. We exploded from that point on, almost always opening 100 new stores a year, and more than 150 in some years. I think the Kuhn`s deal gave us a new confidence that we could conquer anything.

I don`t know how the folks around our executive offices see me, and I know they get frustrated with theway I make everybody go back and forth on so many issues that come up. But I see myself as being a little more inclined than most of them are to take chances. On something like the Kuhn`s decision, I try to play a "what-if" game with the numbers—but it`s generally my gut that makes the final decision. If it feels right, I tend to go for it, and if it doesn`t, I back off.

Sometimes, of course, that leads me into mistakes.

 

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Back in the early eighties, for example, I traveled all over the world looking at global competition in retailing. I went to Germany, France, Italy, South Africa. Great Britain, Australia, and South America, and saw several concepts which interested me. I was impressed with the giant Carrefours stores in Brazil, which got me started on a campaign to bring home a concept called Hypermart—giant stores with groceries and general merchandise under one roof. I checked them out in Europe and came back pushing the concept hard. I argued that everybody except the U.S. was successful with this concept and we should get in on the ground floor with it. I was certain this was where the next competitive battlefield would be.

Eventually, we opened two Hypermarts in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, one in Topeka, and one in Kansas City. By now we had gotten enough respect in the business so that Kmart jumped right in behind us with their own Hypermart concept called American Fare. Our Hypermarts weren`t disasters, but they were disappointments. They were marginally profitable stores, and they taught us what our next step should be in combining grocery and general merchandising—a smaller concept called the Supercenter. But I was mistaken in my vision of the potential the Hypermart held in this country.

We conducted other similar, but less publicized, experiments that didn`t work out so well either. Our dot Discount Drug concept grew to twenty-five stores before we decided it wasn`t going to be profitable enough. And we tried one home improvement center called Save Mor in the building which had housed the original Wal-Mart in Rogers, which was also not a sue-

 

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cess. As David Glass says about me, once I decide I`m "*Tong, I`m ready to move on to something else.

But when one of our experiments works, watch out. Take Sam`s Clubs, for example. It was an experiment when we started it up in 1983, and now nine years later it`s a $10 billion business with more than 217 stores and terrific growth potential. Sam`s are big stores in warehouse-type buildings aimed at small-business owners and other customers who buy merchandise in bulk. A membership fee entitles a customer to shop at Sam`s, which charges wholesale prices for name-brand, often high-end merchandise—everything from tires to cameras to watches to office supplies to cocktail sausages and soft drinks. If you`ve never been in one, they`re a lot of fun to shop, and the people who work there are a little crazy. Like the old days at Wal-Mart, they`re liable to do anything on a moment`s notice to move the merchandise.

Just like discounting, I`m sorry to say we can`t take any of the credit for inventing the wholesale club concept. Put yourself in our position for a moment, though, and you can see why we had to steal the idea from those who did roll it out. It was the early eighties, and we`d been in the discount business for around twenty years. Only the efficient operators were still in business, because prices, and margins, had been falling steadily the whole time. Suddenly, we noticed a whole new class of sub-discounter undercutting our prices, wholesalers with very low overhead who were selling at margins way below the 22 percent in the discount business—5 to 7 percent. Since "Low Prices Every Day" had brought us this far, we had to explore the business. Especially since we knew that Sol Price—one

 

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of the original discount pioneers—was behind this idea. He had started his Price Club stores in 1976.

So one day in 1983 I went to see Sol in San Diego. I had met him earlier when my son Rob and I called on him. This time, though, Helen and I were out on the West Coast already for a meeting of the mass merchandisers, so we dropped down to have dinner with Sol and his wife Helen at Lubock`s. And I admit it. I didn`t tell him at the time that I was going to copy his program, but that`s what I did.

I came home and went over to Oklahoma City. where we rented an old building for about ninety cents a square foot, or maybe even seventy-five cents. We remodeled it and, to manage it, put together a pickup crew of mavericks who were sort of underappreciated at Wal-Mart. We had two or three buyers. We whipped up a program and a design, and put the whole thing in motion. We opened our first club in 1983. It had that same feel of chaos and excitement as the early days at Wal-Mart. And we went out of our way from the very beginning to separate the Sam`s Club culture from the Wal-Mart culture. One of the guys I picked was Rob Voss. He was not really looked on as a top management talent at Wal-Mart because he was always swimming against the current more than he was going with it. He was a little bit of an agitator.

rob voss, first general merchandise manager,

sam`s club:

"I told Sam up front that he had a lot of egos around this company, and that they needed to understand we were going to be doing our own merchandising. So he got up at a Saturday morning meeting and told everybody—this is a direct

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quote—`The Sam`s Club operation will be doing their own merchandising. If any of you buyers out here with Wal-Mart take exception to that, and feel that because you`re the buyer of a category you should be buying it for the entire company, I suggest you come and visit with me in my office on a one-on-one basis, and then I`ll explain it to you in a little more detail.` From that day on, we never had a problem."

We quickly went on to open Sam`s in Kansas City and Dallas and then two units in Houston. It was a lot like Wal-Mart. Once we had those five units up and soing, I knew we could run with it, and we did. I hate to say it, but I guess it was almost what you`d call a second childhood for me—a second challenge anyway. I had a chance to build a company all over again, and I tried to be as hands-on as I could, although David Glass was heavily involved with Sam`s from early on too.

ron loveless, retired senior vice president, -mart:

"I came over from Wal-Mart to help set up Sam`s. Since we were patterned after Price Clubs, sometimes we copied them without exactly knowing what we were doing. We were bringing a West Coast idea to the Midwest, and we didn`t know how it would be received. I remember one idea that didn`t transfer too well. Price Club had a huge stack of wine in the front of its stores. We bought the same amount for our stores in the Midwest, and we learned the hard way that Midwest-erners aren`t exactly wine drinkers."

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tom coughlin, senior vice president,

sam`s clubs:

"This business is fim. It really is. It`s so basic. So straightforward. We do no advertising, but our whole business is based on selling the concept. We sell small business operators on the idea that for $25 a year they can have a just-in-time warehouse with all the same price advantages for goods that large companies get. And just like Wal-Mart, our customers get to know and love our culture. They know there are no frills whatsoever in those warehouses. They know our management people are likely to be the ones to grab the forklift and pull the goods down for them, and they come to expect it. And like it."

The competition in the club business can get pretty spirited sometimes. Once I was in the big Price Club on Marino Avenue in San Diego, and I had my little tape recorder with me—like I always do—and I was making notes to myself about prices and merchandising ideas. This guy, a big guy, comes up to me and says, "I`m sorry but I`ll have to take your tape recorder and erase the material you`ve got on it. We have a policy against people using them in the stores." Well, we have the same policy, and I knew I was caught. So I said, "I respect that. But I`ve got things on here from other stores that I don`t want to lose, so let me write a note to Robert Price"—that`s Sol`s son. So I wrote: "Robert, your guy is just too good. I was trying to get some infolTnation on this recorder about some of the items you were carrying and some of my impressions of your store, and he caught me. So here`s the tape. If you want to listen to it, you certainly have that privilege.

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but I have some other material on here I would like very much to have back." So in about four days I got a nice note back from Robert, with the tape, and none of it had been blurred or scratched out. He probably treated me better than I deserved.

The Sam`s launch reflects another part of my management style that applies not only to the competition, but to our own people as well. I like to keep everybody guessing. I don`t want our competitors getting too comfortable with feeling like they can predict what we`re going to do. And I don`t want our own executives feeling that way either. It`s part of my strong feeling for the necessity of constant change, for keeping people a little off balance.

A lot of folks in my position would have been perfectly content with the situation as it stood in 1984. Our 640 Wai-Marts were earning almost $200 million a year on sales of more than $4.5 billion, we were still growing like wildfire, and we were underway with Sam`s. But I felt like we had to make a change. So I called in Jack Shewmaker, by now our president and chief operating officer, and asked him if he would mind swapping jobs with David Glass, our chief financial officer. Not your everyday request from the chairman in most companies, I guess. I valued the talents of both of these guys enormously, but I had my own reasons for wanting to see how the switch might work out. Jack is so smart and aggressive and sure of himself that sometimes he could be a little rough on folks, and I wanted to see how somebody with David`s smoother manner would handle the job.

Jack said he already knew he didn`t want to stay at Wal-Mart until he was an old man, so after some discussion, we agreed on the switch. David took the presi-

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dent`s job, and Jack stayed on for three more years as chief financial officer, and he did a great job. Today, he does international consulting work, and he remains a valuable Wal-Mart board member. David, of course, turned into a fantastic president, and about five years ago I relinquished my CEO title to him. At that time. Jack retired.

As well as all that worked out for everyone—and it really did—I won`t pretend there wasn`t tension surrounding that period in our history. This is a highly competitive business, and an even more competitive company. It naturally attracts a lot of ambitious people, sometimes with egos to match. Ever since my peewee football days, I`ve believed almost any kind of competition is great. I expect our folks to compete with one another and as I have said, what I hate is to see a rivalry become a personal thing, where the folks don`t support one another.

Competition is actually the reason I love retailing so much. The Wal-Mart story is just another chapter in that history of competition—a great chapter, mind you —but it`s all part of the evolution of the industry. There`s always a challenger coming along. There may be one on the street right now formulating a plan to get to the top. To stay ahead of those challengers, we have to keep changing and looking back over our shoulder and planning ahead. That`s one reason we bought the McLane company a few years ago. It`s a big distributor to grocery stores, and it should be a great base for us to push on into that market, where we feel customers are ready for our way of doing business.

Right now, I see a lot of new challengers coming from offshore with some very sophisticated programs. Some of the emerging competitors in this country who

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have come from Holland, Germany, and France bear dose watching. And it won`t be long before we have a wave of Japanese retail concepts arriving. I don`t know if Wal-Mart can truly maintain our leadership position by just staying in this country. I think we`re going to have to become a more international company in the Dot-too-distant future. We`ve created an international division in the company, and we have a joint venture with a Mexican company called CIFRA for the development of Club Aurrera, a wholesale club concept. We`ve opened two with plans for more soon. Absorbing people from other cultures quickly and smoothly into the company will present a real challenge to Wal-Mart in the near future—but our folks are up to it.

On the domestic front, competition in the discount business has improved tremendously in the last few years. Our competitors are doing a better job of serving their customers, of getting them through the checkout lines. They`re running cleaner stores with better merchandise presentations. They`re making our job a lot harder. But so far, none of our competitors has yet been able to operate on the volume that we do as efficiently as we do. They haven`t been able to get their expense structure as low as ours, and they haven`t been able to get their associates to do all those extra things for their customers that ours do routinely: greeting them, smiling at them, helping them, thanking them. And they haven`t been able to move their merchandise as efficiently, or keep it in stock as efficiently, as we do.

If anyone is ever able to top us in any of those areas, we will have real concern. At this point, no one has been able to do it.

 

 

 

 


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Great Job ElidS,

Yes interesting, some of the not so obvious things.

`Sam phoned to tell me he was going to start a wholesale club. It was no surprise. He is notorious for looking at what everybody else does, taking the best of it, and then making it better."

that hits so close to home.

making things better seems so easy, as  a matter of fact  I would like to test this skill.

Does anybody have a program that they would like to make better??? The challenge is out.

mike

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From the owner`s view, I have to believe in the product and it must meet the consumer`s needs.  I am solutions oriented, so I need mutliple choices.  My motivation must be to serve the consumer and give them what they need and/or want.

From the consumer view, the product must fit my need or come as close as possible if I have exhausted all other options.  the product must be packaged professionally, easy to open or use - self directed, and make me feel goodthat I am making the purchase - putting my hard earned money into this product.  I don`t want to regret my decision when I leave the store, not be able to sleep becuase I paid too much, or have a product that doesn`t work properly.  I will be a loyal customer if I get what I need or want the first time.

Katherine

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From the consumer view, the product must fit my need or come as close as possible if I have exhausted all other options.  the product must be packaged professionally, easy to open or use - self directed, and make me feel goodthat I am making the purchase - putting my hard earned money into this product.  I don`t want to regret my decision when I leave the store, not be able to sleep becuase I paid too much, or have a product that doesn`t work properly.  I will be a loyal customer if I get what I need or want the first time.

Katherine

So there is life out there 

OK you have a need for food,  (to stay alive) and a want, to hav someone else prepare it for you.   and another want,  for it to be pizza.

   or phrased another way , you want some pizza. probably some pizza that has the taste that you favor.   There wasn`t much of a ....fit my need....  in there so far because you don`t need for it to taste good.  you would just like for it to taste good.  

packaged professionally.. aren`t they all????

and make me feel goodthat I am making the purchase ,, theres the want I was looking for.

I could keep on going , I just wanted  to make people think about why they make the purchases they make.  a little more than yea  I like pizza huts pizza  lets go get one.  I am trying to lead up to a point here...

 

Michael T

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making things better seems so easy, as  a matter of fact  I would like to test this skill.

Does anybody have a program that they would like to make better??? The challenge is out.

mike

What do you mean by program?  I have several processes within my business that I can see have tons of room for improvement.  Product sourcing is something we`d like to improve.  Would this process apply to your challenge? 

After re-reading the material EliaS provided above I can better understand what Mike has been trying to pound home. 

With our online business, it`s all about phenomenal customer service and our 100% transaction satisfaction guarantee; no questioning a return, no hoops to jump through, just make sure the customer is happy.  With the small fast food place, we like to rib our customers and give them a little bit of a hard time about things like putting ketchup on hot dogs......  we have a tongue-in-cheek attitude there but that`s what our customer`s say makes it fun.   Of course, it`s as important to make sure our customers are happy but I`m left to wonder if the difference in customer relation philosophies of those two businesses is what is causing me the conflict.

 

MiteyMite2007-1-10 18:38:8
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Am I the only one that thinks marketing is one the most important aspect of a business.

Wasn`t  there a video casset tape player by the name of beta,  I think it was beta..  hmm doesn`t sound right, it has been so long since I have seen it,  it was smaller than VHS and I was told it was much better than VHS. 

Can someone tell me how an inferior product design, can win out. 

Is it always the best product that wins in the market place or is it the product with the best image,  the product that customers feel is better than the others. 

How does that come about?  Which is going to be viewed  better than the other?

I am going to define marketing as the motivating factor that makes people purchase a given product or service over another.  By my defination, I guess customer service would be included,  after all how many times do you see an advertisement that states that "Our business has the best service"  or "The best service in town".

I believe that the marketing programs that you use in your business are so important that sometimes they are more important than the quality of your product and/or service.

After all it isn`t the actual quality of your product or service  but the image of the quality it has obtained. 

Who here bowls? There are several bowling ball manufacturers.   They all would like for you to think that their bowling balls are the best.  Since there are so many people with differing opinions  on which manufacturer produces the best equipment then I would argue that it is image that seperate one manufacturer from another. 

Then again isn`t that what brand loyalty is all about.  Different consumers thinking that the brand they purchase is the best.

So how does a busines acquire this image,  through marketing.

Am I talking in circles yet? 

 Lets me say that I believe the marketing department of a firm is one of the most important departments there is and that there isnt enough effort put into its success.

Michael T

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OK let me rephrase the question...

Can anybody explain to me how marketing isnt the most important factors of making a business successful?

I will define marketing as, the ability to intice consumers to purchase specific products and services.

What if I told you that I believe if your incentive programs are good enough, you can  actually make people want to buy your product even though they didn`t need or want that type of product before the incentive program was implemented??  The benefits that they will realize from the incentive programs alone will make them want to purchase said products and services. 

 

 Michael T

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