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idahobob

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Feb 12, 2009 5:50 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I new but I`m wondering has startupnation ever pooled their resources together and started a business? Their is a 3 year old post with 99 pages of replies (which i did not read all the way through) but i get the idea their was a lot of interest but nothing materialized... am i right?
 
I posed the question about a "for profit group"  in a marketing group that ultimately went no where and i`ve been trying to thinking of a better way to approach it... I haven`t seen the power of all of the professionals best efforts applied to a single cause but that`s not saying it couldn`t be done...
 
For my business (as would a lot of other people) I`d like to hire the best of the best. I want the best business planner, the best creative team, the best graphic and web guys the best copywriters and I want them all doing their best and working in harmony like a finely tuned clock.
 
All the players get a cut of the pie (because surely I don`t have the couple hundred grand to just write you a check) a service is provided, a profit generated and wile that profit continues another business is added, profits and so on and so forth... you know, like a business growing businesses and getting a cut of each pie over a lifetime...
 
So I guess my question is... 
 
what keeps an entire group of experts like the SUN folks from being able to provide their individual expertise to a group cause for profits? Surely, you all individually have confidance in your skills but as a group you could be a force.
 
Is it money or leadership?
 
 
wtgg

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Feb 12, 2009 6:06 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I think there are a few arrangements under the radar, but to me this site mainly is for us beginners to learn valuable lessons from each other in our own adventures.
I must admit though I think this group of people could probably come up with the next "pet rock" concept, trade mark it, market it, build an awesome website, maybe some blogs, do a social market program, run a nationwide advertising campaign, manufacture it, setup fulfillment, and distribute it, create an awesome customer experience ,  all in a matter of days from inception to shipment (faster than a stimulus bill);.it might actually be an interesting experiment, the profits could go to form a startup venture fund. or maybe a big mac..LOL.


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davebarnes04

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Feb 12, 2009 9:06 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Bob and Stan,
 
I`m sitting in a Chicago hotel tonight working on exhibiting for a science convention. And of course, now worrying about my business, and looking something interesting to discuss.
 
Bob your idea could actually be  facinating in concept, but I`m guessing you have a 99% ratio of chiefs to indians here. Not to mention that there may need to be a new category for the Type A personalties (maybe A+++). So I`m guessing that the biggest problem with that idea would be getting all the chiefs to agree on which widget to work on.
 
I`ve seen some very bright minds at work in here. Man if you could harness that, that really would be something!


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idahobob

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Feb 13, 2009 1:18 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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well stan, they all don`t have to be grand slams... just moderate gains that can be duplicated over and over again should do the trick.
 
Dave, the chiefs should be smart enough to develope something that has a lot of widgets:) if not, than  a way to make decisions... this is the 21st century, right??
 
In a  world of entrepreneurs and a world full of mom and pop manufacturers, wouldn`t you think that just one of these entrepreneurs would think... "hmmm, look at all these people making great stuff but instead of  using the god given talents they have making great stuff, they are doing something completely out of their level of expertise. trying to sell their great stuff. how crazy is that?"
 
I`ve been thinking of it for 10 years or longer but don`t have the expertise or level of influence, financial resources and everything it takes to pull it off... I just have a product (and a it guy who has spent 4 years trying to build the platform to solve my and  hundreds others like me) problems...
 
 but think about it... maybe a million individual mom and pop shops all making their own web sites and all making the same mistakes and all spending needless money on dead ends not to mention the time involved and the money NOT being made on sales that "COULD" have been made?? and one guy can`t think of a way to solve this most simple of problems and profit from it? because of peoples "a type" personalities?? get  3 "a types" to find me 50 "b type" personalities to do the work... their`s a solution for ya..
 
what could be a better untapped market?
 
A guy could fill up 100 costco`s with ""stuff" the world has virtually never seen and it could all be done on the computer. 100 costco stores full of stuff is maybe 1 gigabite of space??
 
Donny Deutch should have people out scouring the world looking for people who make great stuff so he can exploit their talents and product and get cut`s of all of the pies. Or him and his pals, I don`t know but it doesn`t seem very difficult to do assuming you had the resources. compared to the whole B&M infrastructure as far as cost`s go, a internet version of wallmart for mom and pop`s would be relatively cheap.
 
the premium businesses of the future are the mom and pop shops who have been around and are able to weather pretty much any economic downturns... they make nicer things that last longer and represent a greater value than what the average consumer is used to, I could write a book of lists on the virtues of the mom and pop shop but you get the point.... importers of crap are going to find it difficult to sustain and maintain the American consumer base (that is still here), especially when the new mantra will be to  buy quality .  it`s not going to be good enough for the consumer  to "buy more of the same stuff" but rather who buys the most unique.
 
everything is changing and it`s up to the entrepreneur to see these changes before they happen. and develop a plan to profit from those changes..
 
 the big businesses of the future are going to be ones who can group these small businesses together and package them.
 
Maybe someone is already doing this, I don`t know but if their not, it seems reasonable to assume someone will be and soon. Me, if I can get my guy to finish the program? but it`s a big big market that fills every category. Buy American is going to be big again, buying from the guy who makes it is really gaining momentum... put these two things together and you are in the best position to take advantage of the economic turn around...
 
THis is  a great time to be looking to pool resources (it should have already been done back in 06 when that guy posed this same question to the group) but, now is even a better time or at least make more sense than it did in 06.
 
THink about a guy who makes a web site for me... maybe it`s 1500 bucks and he can make a couple every week and now he has to sustain that pace every week to maintain his lifestyle but every week he needs to not only do the work but market his services... Now, If i was a web guy, I`d be thinking this is too much to depend on future web site sales for my survival... I`d be more inclined to make the guy`s site for free and take a cut of the sales... do that a few dozen times and i wouldn`t have to be making anymore web sites...
 
if i were a marketing guy, I`d be thinking  along the same lines...hey, all these really great web sites this guy is making, they need marketing, I can do it and take the cut. maybe i have experience in affiliate marketing, maybe i have experience in all kinds of marketing and if i have 100 or 1000 or 1000000 new products to offer the world under one package, I can reduce my time in marketing a hundred individual things each with their own marketing package.
 
as a manufacturer, I`m thinking the same way, hey, I`m happy to give a cut because I`m saving money and time.
 
everybody makes money, it`s a win win play and if everybody is happy, it will continue paying dividends indefinately..
 
this is the 21st century and the age of technology...how come we are so primitive??
AaronAgassi

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Jun 29, 2009 9:23 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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idahobob, I share your frustration



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