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seniorclique

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Sep 26, 2008 6:01 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi All,
 
I`m kind of curious...how many members have actually developed a relationship here that truly lead to an investment partnership and getting their project "off the ground" so to speak?
 
Seeing all types of listings by people looking for investors, has anyone actually found their investment partner/s here?
 
It seems as though there is no lack of advice. Yet, I haven`t seen any postings that have had success in getting their project funded...alot of people offering suggestions leading to their own sites soliciting funds from startups...am I missing something?
 
Signed,
 
Curious


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CraigL

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Sep 26, 2008 9:32 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Joseph :-)
I`m not sure this site ever was strong on hooking up investors with startups. It`s always been more geared toward the problems and ideas involved in starting and running a microbusiness. A sort of community of people with a similar interest, so to speak. It`s not even really a social networking site, when you come right down to it.

Those looking for investors may have the wrong idea. On the other hand, the community seems more useful to those looking for advice or thoughts about where else to go to find investors.

Where does a small business owner or entrepreneur go to talk with other entrepreneurs? Half the time, their friends and family think they`re totally nuts. In other cases, they`re running a business from home and never get out socially at all. Then there are the hidden terrors, freak-outs, and anxieties we have and there aren`t many places to talk about those.
seniorclique

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Sep 26, 2008 10:21 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Craig,
 
Thanks for the feedback.
 
I guess I was under the wrong impression. Given the plethora of startups here looking for investment and the number of investment advisors, I thought this was more of a meeting place if you will.
 
I have certainly found alot of useful information but seem to be missing stories from companies that have been successful in raising seed capital.
 
It might be interesting to see a thread dedicated to members sharing their experiences in raising initial funding. Any takers out there?


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CraigL

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Sep 26, 2008 10:44 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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There`s been quite a shift in "tone" to the forums here, over the past couple of years. More and more people seem to have the impression that posting their Web site or some kind of article qualifies as "driving traffic" to their own sites. With alleged gurus out there telling everyone to post everywhere, get articles on thousands of directories, and so on, forums are a target, not a tool.

Topics here used to routinely run into multiple pages. Now they sort of vanish after only a couple of posts. To some extent, I think it`s due to the "get rich while you sleep" promotion by many companies cashing in on the ecommerce gold rush. But we`ve had a couple of successful connections before, coming out of basically this community. Not a lot, but some.
CraigL2008-9-26 22:45:3
Rich

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Sep 29, 2008 2:51 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hey, Joseph -
 
a few things: first, I WISH there were a way for me to share with you the emails i get every week saying that StartupNation was the spark, provided the resources, helped establish a customer base, inspired someone to action, etc. You`d get a huge rush just seeing all of the positive feedback. These are often private messages and direct emails so they`re not really in the whole community`s eye unfortunately, and some of the great successes aren`t revealed. i sometimes blog about success stories, though, so you may want to subscribe to my blog.
 
my guess is that the site is currently not the best connector of entrepreneurs with investors. that`s not the site`s primary objective. but we know the importance of capital to startups. that`s why we`ve been doing the elevator pitch contests and exercise for years on our radio show and why i include pitch tips at all of my speeches.
 
having said this, in November we`re doing a significant version upgrade of our site and it will include specific ways for you and investors to connect.
 
as for Craig`s comments about threads getting shorter here at the site, it`s been a fascinating last few months. Our site traffic has surged over 113% and is trending upward from there. Some threads turn into 5-pagers and some only get a few comments. I`m glad to know that you`re gaining value from what we`re trying to do to help entrepreneurs and will take your questions in your posts in this thread as an interest level in functionality that encourages contact between enrepreneurs and investors.
 
best,
 
rich
 


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robertj

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Sep 30, 2008 12:57 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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As a follow on to Rich`s points, I`d like to add:

1. Except for the "professional" venture investor types (VC firms, hedge funds, etc) most investors prefer to maintain a low profile. Most of the Private Investors I`ve met don`t talk about their investments in "public".  Furthermore, entrepreneurs prefer to keep the identity of their private investors confidential.  So what we read or hear about are the big deals involving the aforementioned professional investor community.
 
2. The investors I have met, who have chosen to support early stage enterprises, say that the people/ person was an important (the key) factor in their decision. It`s difficult to get to "really" know someone from a web interaction alone and many private investors are hesitant to "declare" their interest because they feel it "changes" the entrepreneurs behavior. In fact, I know of several situations where the investor decided to participate after spending several days (at a seminar) "watching" the entrepreneur and getting to know them.
 
3. My opinion, based upon experience and observation, is that web sites where you can "connect with investors" - deal in quantity rather than quality. There is little (if any) review or vetting of situations and thus, a large percentage of the "opportunities" posted are not capital ready.  This means a low success rate - which is often perceived (by the posters) to be caused by a lack of investors present.
 
Although I can`t be specific (see above) I have connected through StartupNation with some people who are open to supporting the "right" situation and I have connected with entrepreneurs (who became clients) and  who have successfully acquired external capital. However, I am not personally aware of anyone who made a connection here that directly led to an investment.


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May 28, 2009 2:20 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Maybe I should start a new posting for this, but wondering what is an expected Return On Investment when pursuing a perspective individual investor? We will be seeking some funding (45K) in the very near future and have several possible individuals to speak to in my local area. Some of which we have known for many years. What type of ROI is common for this type of funding?

robertj

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May 28, 2009 2:28 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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In general, an "acceptable" return depends who you are dealing with and how they perceive the risks. The higher the risk the higher the return.

There are many factors that influence the perceived risk starting with time. The longer it will be before they realize their return - the higher they perceive the risk.

If you`d like to discuss the specifics of your situation, send me a PM or contact me directly.



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May 28, 2009 2:56 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I did opt to start a new topic, more details HERE
 
Didn`t mean to hijack this thread!
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