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hostclick

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Sep 26, 2007 10:55 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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The creator of an original work does not relinquishes their copyrights to their work unless they explicitly sign over said rights to another party. The only exception to this is when someone creates something in their capacity as an EMPLOYEE of their employer in which case the employer owns the copyright. There is a whole bunch of legal tests that must be proved to prove an employee/employer relationship.

If you want to own the copyright to the script you will need the creator of the script to agree to sign over the rights to the script, which in all likelihood will require you paying them an additional fee. The reality is that your best hope is that the creator is willing to sign over non-exclusive rights for you to make derivative works of the script.

Most designers/programmers, my self included, will not turn over exclusive rights to any code because we like to reuse code segments in other works. If we signed over exclusive rights every time we created something for a client, we would have to start from scratch every single time we started a new project, which just isn`t efficient.

I think this pretty much sums it up as I understand the concept.  Pulled from here.

Easterner

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Sep 26, 2007 11:49 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Having been in IT industry for several years, we have always written code at different clients and once the code is deployed into their production boxes, it is compltely owned by the client.  Legally we are not allowed to even make a copy of the code and take it home.  Well, developers usually have a copy and that is a different story.  I think it is completely fair to own the product you get custom developed. 

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starrhorne

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Sep 26, 2007 12:24 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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It`s not really about what`s fair, it`s about what you and your developer have agreed on...hopefully in a contract.

Legally, hiring a contractor to write a piece of software does not give you any kind of exclusive rights.

If you want to own the rights, that`s fine. Just expect to pay more. And be clear about what you want. Exclusive right to use? to resell?

Also, you have to be realistic about which rights you can own. Any developer who does contract work will have his standard tool set of libraries and frameworks that he uses over and over. You can`t buy exclusive rights to these, because the developer doesn`t own them.
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john146

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Sep 26, 2007 8:18 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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As a software contractor, I have to agree with Easterner here. Generally,
when you write software for someone on a contract basis, they get the
rights to the software. That is stated in the contract. That doesn`t stop them
from using snippets (fair use) or recreating it from scratch, unless it is
patented.

Oftentimes there is a no compete clause in the contracts as well that will
limit the contractor`s ability to recreate the same feature for a competitor
for a period of time, never indefinitely.

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Creadiv

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Sep 27, 2007 2:41 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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This definitely depends on the contract you have with the programmer.  If this is what you want write the contract up for that.  However the programmer knows that this will be a very valuable script will probably be likely to charge you alot more.  For example if I create an add on for a blogging software and start selling it to different bloggers I can sell it for cheap and make money off of continuing sales so there is opportunity for me to make alot.  However if I am making a custom script for one and only one person the potential for income is limited and I will increase my asking price.

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ashaw

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Oct 11, 2007 12:45 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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In my previous life a a programmer and consult.  I was programs for the clients who never saw a program before.  Thata being said the program was theirs.  It was in the contract that the rights of the program were to my client not to me.  Make sure you have a contract that spells out what role the constant has and does not have.  
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