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calvin

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Sep 25, 2007 12:38 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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If i`m having some custom work done on my site, is it fair that I ask the work
be proprietary?

I`m having a programmer add a custom function to my auction script. This
script is very popular so mods are constantly being developed for it. I don`t
want to pay top dollar for this custom mod, then turn around to see it
released to the public.

The auction script I`m using is called PHP Probid.

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oleg

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Sep 25, 2007 12:57 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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So you are paying a developer to build a mod for PHP Probid software, and want to prevent the developer from re-selling the same mod to ohers?

That doesn`t seem fair to me.  What is your reasoning behind this?



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nhgnikole

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Sep 25, 2007 1:12 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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When you pay someone for this, you are paying them for their time - not so much the product.
calvin

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Sep 25, 2007 1:30 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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So you are paying a developer to build a mod for PHP
Probid software, and want to prevent the developer from re-selling the same
mod to ohers?


That doesn`t seem fair to me.  What is your reasoning behind this?

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Since this is a custom mod, it will make it unique to the other auction sites
out there. I`d like to keep this as a competitive advantage and possible
patent in the future.

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calvin

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Sep 25, 2007 1:32 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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When you pay someone for this, you are paying them
for their time - not so much the product.


I might disagree here. To me, the concept is the same as hiring a graphic
designer to design you a web template. If that designer uses that same web
template on 20 different websites, you`d be upset.

You are paying for the product (script) they are providing you.

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oleg

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Sep 25, 2007 2:13 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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If you were to buy off-the-shelf software, you would be paying for the product.

If you are hiring a developer to create custom software, you`re paying for their time.



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ElidS

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Sep 25, 2007 2:32 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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If you are hiring a developer to create custom software, you`re paying for their time.



Yes, you are paying for their time, AND their knowledge and whatever product/software/concept they come up with. If that was not the case all employees of software companies would own the products they help produce. IMO You simply need to make sure that the legal part representing ownership of the finished product is included in the contract.

calvin

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Sep 25, 2007 5:29 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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If you were to buy off-the-shelf software, you would be
paying for the product.


If you are hiring a developer to create custom software, you`re paying for
their time.



So would it be OK for a designer to create a custom web template for you,
then turn around an use it for all his other clients?

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nhgnikole

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Sep 25, 2007 5:57 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Yes, unless it was in their agreement not to. I have never reused entire sites worth of code, but I have certainly reused snippets/pieces/chunks of it, borrowed from my past works, placed similar looking buttons on multiple sites, etc.

I would think a patent would be hard to get on code, especially since you are a) using PHP, and b) launching it off the back of someone else`s software. Code is constantly changing - what you write at the time of patent might be totally different before it even gets approved. And even if you make your patent vague enough to allow for future updates in code or functionality, it would be too vague for you to be able to defend it.

IMO, I don`t agree with patents and trademarks on designs, graphics, code, websites, etc. It`s like an excuse for people to think they are protected to the point where they become change-resistant. Code is fluid ... you will need to update it, add to it, stay on top of it.

True competitive edge is forged through actually being the best at what you do, not wrapping yourself in legalese. If someone copies your site and does it better than you can, they deserve to win!
oleg

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Sep 25, 2007 9:14 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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So would it be OK for a designer to create a custom web template for you,
then turn around an use it for all his other clients?

Legally - you could possibly protect the code in some fashion, but I don`t know much about software patent laws.

 

Ethically - since you`re asking what is fair - I don`t think you should stop the developer from selling it to other clients.



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50% of computer programming is trial and error. The other 50% is copy and paste.
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