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2.0 already sounds "turn-of-the-century-ish" yet the apps and potential are awesome - but how is this gonna end and what comes next?

Pierre

Pierre - I don`t think that the majority of the web applications have moved to the so called Web2.0. Some great work has been done but the best is yet to come. Platform creators like Microsoft (ASP.NET framework) and Sun (Java) are in the process on meeting these new needs of web applications.
It is also true that a lot of hype has been created around Web2.0. This is almost the same type of buzz and hype that ultimately led to the dotcom crash. Since the Web2.0 concept was created many a websites which look cool came up promoting their product as Web2.0 compliant but actually what they really lacked is a good revenue source. Enough efforts were put into the interface and the desktop like feel but not enough thoughts were poured into as to how to generate revenue.

Aayush,

I agree and  I don`t think there will be a 2nd bubble bust either. - Paul Graham describes the Web 2.0 as "Ajax + Democracy" and the way we are going is much more in tune with the nature of the Internet than it what 5 years ago.

But look around you. Telcos, banking, recruitment, online ads - all these industries and much more are threatened by the new applications and revenue models that are apprearing on a daily basis.

All this is fine, but what I want to point out is that all those who of us don`t want to get stranded in 3 years would better try to understand where we are headed and make out what is going to happen after the current wave of change...

What are the revenue models that are going to be dominant? Who will be the next big players? Who will be the big winners/losers? And most of all - how can SMEs and entrepreneurs take advantage of the new paradigm?

Pierre

I absolutely agree with you in that Web2.0 is certainly a concept/phenomenon that we cannot neglect. The point I was making was that it is still in its infancy and a lot of effort needs to be poured in to make web applications more user friendly and more useful to the masses. But certainly Web2.0 is a correct step in realizing such a dream.
In the fast changing software world a developer certainly cannot afford to leave behind the paradigm shift that is taking place in the web development arena.
The point that Paul Graham makes is certainly true. Web is certainly enpowering developers create software and services that integrate with each other and provide a much greater value to the customers that they might have done individually. It is also taking into account what the end users ultimately like/dislike. The whole new buzz around "user generated content" is a good example of this.

Hey everyone--
I was just wondering... I have Web 2.0 ideas, but would like to find a developer to partner with on these ideas.
Have you guys heard of any forums where people are doing these things?

The Swaynester

Swaynester,

Can you be more specific about the kind of ideas you have and the kind of developer you are looking for?

Pierre

Hi Pierre--

Looking for someone who knows something about mashups, APIs, and perhaps internet messaging APIs.

 

Matt

Back to my initial question : "Web 2.0 - what comes next?" Here is one answer :

"The next stage of the Web is the semantic web, where "data is accessible for artificial intelligence to locate and analyze."

I found it in an article about artificial intelligence I received recently.

Any thoughts?

 

Pierre

Maybe I sound stupid ... but what are you folks talking about??

Rather than speaking "geek-eeze" ... just speak English for us lay folk.

What was most interesting was Peter Norvig`s response, in which he basically slams the competence of most laypeople to accurately categorize, tag and label content -- Google is ever concerned about relevance (look at the pounding Yahoo took yesterday for the delay in their efforts to improve search ad relevance and performance), but it seems like having Google take a contrarian stance on this might open the door for competitors to step in who might not have as much of a vested stake, and can weather the rough aspects of the early `semantic web`.


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