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InactiveMember

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May 24, 2007 2:24 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Core functionality as you describe it, really exists in hardware, and even then, hardware is increasingly programmable. CPUs are already highly programmable. Without good design - fantastically good design - the concept of a CPU would never work. Even with Intel`s banjax of the Pentium, a fix was implemented in software without changing the microchip itself.
oleg

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May 24, 2007 2:44 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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"If you want to fix that pesky Windows security flaw, can you do it without Microsoft?"

[ Yes, you could, assuming the system is well designed. ]

So if you this DLL you speak of exhibits undesirable behavior, can you change the behavior without access to the source code?

[ Yes, you could, assuming the DLL is well designed. ]

I am talking about modifying the core functionality. 

[ Core functionality is just a programming term. There is probably/possibly no such thing as "core functionality" in a well designed application. Even in an API, if it`s well designed - there is just functionality - not core functionality, not extended functionality. ]

OK, maybe in a perfect world full of perfectly designed software you can do all these things.  Now let`s go back to the real world: 

  • Can you, or any other software developer who does not have access to Windows source code, fix a security flaw that Microsoft hasn`t release a patch for yet?
  • Can you modify the default double-click functionality in Excel?
  • Can you change the WinXP file search to work more like Win2000 file search? (If you can, please let me know! I hate the XP search.)


These are real questions, not theoretical ones.  In the real world, it makes no sense for a software manufacter to allow the end user to modify their software.  Even if you can figure out how to do it, your license agreement most likely contains a clause to explictly prohibit you from doing this.  This is not poor design, it`s just good business sense.  If you go by your criteria for well-designed software, you have to admit that the overwhelming majority of proprietary software on the market today is poorly designed.

If well designed software should allow users to modify any of it`s core functionality, then why would the software producer even bother with obfuscating the source code? 



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blondieblue

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May 24, 2007 3:11 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You folks have way too much free time on your hands.
InactiveMember

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May 24, 2007 3:48 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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BlondieBlue,

We`re here having an interesting technical discussion on source code, software development, open source, etc. If you don`t like it, perhaps you can search people`s profiles and look up their work numbers so you can call them and talk about GoTruckStop and make disparaging comments about the Sloan brothers. I`ve really had enough of you.

 

blondieblue

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May 24, 2007 4:42 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Lets set the record straight here.

First of all, I am not nor have I ever been associated with or part of GoTruckstop.com.

I know TJ Graff, because I read a number of his posts here, prior to him being "banished" from SuN - simply because he had the guts to speak the truth about Rich Sloan. (at a time when Rich Sloan was acting like a horse`s pittoot.)

TJ shared with me a number of instances where there was group think here at SuN - and because he challenges the status quo - he was banished from the forum by Rich Sloan.

As far as anyone calling you - I have no idea what you are talking about.

And as far as this discussion - IMHO - you lost many a folk here. Remember, most folks here are new startups, not a bunch of techies or geeks.

This discussion between a few of you is like watching someone wrestle with a pig.

Sooner or later you realize - the pig enjoys it.

Now, if you have proof that I am who you say I am - I suggest you provide it here and now !!

Otherwise, go slither off in a corner.

(Sorry folks for the rant - but enough is enough.)

blondieblue2007-5-24 16:43:57
oleg

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May 24, 2007 6:13 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Blondie, TJ, or whoever you are:

Apparently there is a number of tech savvy folks here who enjoy discussing software development methodologies and merits of open source software.

Apparently you`re not one of those folks.  Fine.  Feel free to participate in other threads that are more to your liking.  You can even start one of your own!  You can do that, can`t you?

This discussion between a few of you is like watching someone wrestle with a pig.

Sooner or later you realize - the pig enjoys it.

 

Do you speak from first-hand experience?  Hey, maybe you can post a new thread about pig `rasslin!



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nhgnikole

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May 25, 2007 12:37 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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On the topic of open source, we met a developer yesterday making this amazing video teleconferencing robot. Essentially, the guy is opening up the programming to be open source so that people can design add-ons for his device and add a value to it that didn`t exist before.

Another example of this is the fun Chumby. By letting people make it their own, they create loyal users. By opening the whole thing up to hacking, they let people write the software for it. And by having more options for it through open source programming and physical device modifications, they sell more devices.
OrangeHRM

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Mar 18, 2009 4:38 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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We are also a good example about how Open Source can works.

We have been developing a HR Open Source App for the past 3 years. The results, the way clients and developers join the idea is simply great. Till now, our community have been helping us to translate the app for more them 12 languages and report bugs. We also have been helping small and middle size companies, who has no money to hire (license + implementation + support) expensive software, to improve their production level and become more competitive by using our free application (you pay only for the support, if you want). Just take a look at http://weblog.infoworld.com/openresource/archives/2009/02/open_source_erp.html

And this is not only about OrangeHRM. A considerable number of other Open Source companies are contributing to this as sugarCRM, OpenBravo, Linux, MySQL etc.

If the Open Source model will completely substitute the traditional model, I don’t know. But for sure, will radically change the competition bases of the software industry (for better).

  
O range HRM Inc.
Telephone:
+1-914-458-4254 (USA)
+94-11-550-5500 (Asia)

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538 Teal Plaza
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Open Source HR Management



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OrangeHRM Inc.
Telephone:
+1-914-458-4254 (USA)
+94-11-550-5500 (Asia)
web: www.orangehrm.com

538 Teal Plaza
Secaucus, NJ 07094
Open Source HR Management
movingsoftware

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Jan 02, 2013 5:41 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks for sharing this information about open source software. I found this information really helpful as well as informative. Keep sharing more such posts.



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Moving Software
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