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nhgnikole

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Jul 04, 2007 2:13 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I love the new CNN thing on "Life After Work".

My favorite stories are Cal Ripken and the woman who now runs a sculpture business. I just love the whole idea of reinventing oneself.

My mom is a workaholic. So I was a little shocked when she recently looked at me and asked me what she was going to do next in life ... that she didn`t want to do what she was doing anymore, she wanted to retire from that and do something completely different. But I think the question is always, "but what?" My husband faces this same challenge currently as well, after nearly a decade at the same company he is burnt out and we want to move. Would he go on to doing what he was doing, or would he do something different?

I have to say that for a serial entrepreneur, I`m bad at being an entrepreneur. I don`t particularly find new companies - I just find new jobs! So I`m not exactly sure what I would want to do either, if I needed to reinvent myself in 20 years.

But I`d love to see a discussion here about it!
CraigL

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Jul 04, 2007 2:33 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Don`t you think that reinventing one`s self requires having some sort of context for what contains that self, why does it exist, and how does it work?
nhgnikole

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Jul 04, 2007 1:39 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I think it`s just scary to do something for a long time, and then suddenly say "OK I want to do something else now ... but what?" - regardless of your age!
saxmansteve

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Jul 04, 2007 2:47 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Absolutely right, it`s very scary. I`ve done it several times, not always with
the success I`d anticipated.

But we are finding a new dynamic. The larger companies are letting the
old folks move on, to make rom for the young blood. Trouble is the
young blood doesn`t have the experience or skills. Companies are
constantly de-skilling, and ultimately find they need to bring the skills
back for specific projects.

Seems to me this makes the entrepreurial boomer a godsend to the CEO
with a problem. They have the experience and skills to fix it, and they`re
happy to move on when they`ve finished the job.

I think Craig is right. Understanding where one can add value and
positioning that at the people who need it could be the secret. There
seems to be a lot of people making a post career living out of it. They`re
never going to be CEO, but maybe they`ve figured out they don`t want to
be.

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LifeStoryBob

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Jul 17, 2007 1:46 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I suspect that this is an interesting dilemma for many boomers today! As a fellow boomer that has reinvented himself - I can say that the prospect as well as the actual undertaking creates more panic in the ones that depend upon your continued success (that they have become accustomed too) - than it does in yourself. At least that was my experience.

After 35 years of sales - and one quad bypass surgery - I started a videography and video production business. There have been lots of twists, turns and disappointments but the rewards are really starting to come forth. Have a long way to go but now have a solid footing from home - with a great deal more enjoyment, reward and satisfaction 



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saxmansteve

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Jul 17, 2007 2:53 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi LifeStoryBob

tell us some more, you`ve really got my interest and I`m sure that applies to lots of other people.

What turned you from sales to video production?

I can`t match your 35 years in sales, but can run you pretty close.

Of course this might just be naval gazing, but it seems to me making a living out of sales is hard yards all the way - nobody wants to take your calls but everybody wants you to bring home the bacon.

Maybe we could have another forum for boomers who made sales a career?

saxmansteve


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LifeStoryBob

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Jul 17, 2007 4:17 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Saxmansteve,

Once you have learned the art of the sale, the negotiation and the close you will always make a great living and acheive a great deal of personal satisfaction. There are always the cold calls, the people that will not take your calls and the gate keepers, but that is all part of the art of selling. Maybe I should produce a video on the art of selling for our fellow SuN yougsters (ha, ha).

When I had quad bypass surgery three years ago (August) it gave me time to really do some self analysis regarding what legacy I was leaving behind for my kids and grandkids. I realized at that time that I had a legacy that I wanted to leave  and I started researching and planning an approach to fullfill my wish. As a salesperson of high end personal products (translated - Million Dollar RVs) to my generation of business owners and successful baby boomers, I realized that everyone has a life story and that most of them had not made any provisions to actually tell it.  You might be able to spend your children`s inheritance if you choose, but you can not rob them of their legacy, which is your life and accomplishments, that they may choose to model themselves after. Therefore, I analyzed my present resources and talent and realized that my interview techniques that I had honed so well as a saleperson, allowed me to get people to open up and discuss their life stories, given the right forum and setting. I put the talents I had developed to work on what I consider a much higher calling, recording and producing individuals life stories, in a specific format that is appropriate for distribution to the individuals family members and freinds, before or even after the subject dies.

I also found, by studying and analyzing the questions, responses and forums of my fellow SuN members, as well as other on-line resources, and them making inquiry to additional prospective clients, that I could stay busy producing similar products for other people. industries and events and decided that I will undertake to my present business.

And so there really is a saleman out there that actually is looking for a response to those many qualifying questions that are asked when you are thinking about about a purchase, and it may not relate to what you has really anticipated.

Thanks for asking.

LifeStoryBob 



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RetiredMember

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Aug 15, 2007 1:27 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hey Bob... I can relate to what you`re saying.
 
For all the years I`ve been selling stuff, listening - really listening - to the customer has been the greatest boon since sliced bread. I found that by asking the right questions, then actually listening to the answer, I could work the conversation well enough that the customer more often than not bought whatever I was selling - mainly because of two things:
 
1. They actually needed the product... and by talking about their problems and needs, realized the product I recommended was the right answer to their problem. They had talked themselves right into the sale. I of course, knew when to shut-up and pull out the order book. "Would next Thursday be OK? Or - do you need it sooner than that? I can put in a rush order if you need me to..."
(Dangled participles and all!)
 
2. Consideration for everyone`s favorite subject - themselves!  By truly listening (with the right feedback and real interest) to them rattle on about their company, it`s problems, their personal life, and all sorts of other off-the-wall talk - I had become a trusted friend and advisor.
 
When another "solution" (rarely enough) was the right one, I almost always recommended that solution. Even though I may have not made the sale that day, in sum, I got a lot more business from them, many recommendations, and most importantly - I got LOTS of referrals that ended up in very profitable sales. Sure beats the heck out of cold calls!
 
This last factoid alone... is what buries the younger, impatient sales folk. They tend to think short-term, when the real money is in the long term with back-end, repeat, and referral sales. Will they listen?
 
Nadachance. They are in too much of a hurry to squeeze every last dime from each and every client... but haven`t the foggiest notion as to how that is done. The answer has always been right there in front of them, just like it was for us. The difference in generations is - we listened.
 
This is what my "key to sales success" was....
 
"The greatest compliment that was ever paid me was when one asked me what I thought, and attended to my answer." ~ Henry David Thoreau
 
This quote might have come from any of my customers and clients... because... I paid them that compliment - as often as humanly possible!
 
Nick
 
 
LifeStoryBob

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Aug 28, 2007 12:42 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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It is said that during the course of any conversation or negotiation that you will reach a point (if you are listening) where the next one that speaks loses! (I prefer to say commits rather than loses)



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RetiredMember

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Aug 28, 2007 4:47 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You`re right Bob... Like I said above, knowing when to shut up is a key factor.

Sometimes, the best answer in that situation is to just give a little sympathetic smile... and politely wait. (Yeah, I know a few seconds waiting time can seem like hours, but it WILL pay off... I promise.)

Nick

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