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The simple thing with these schemes are that things blow up. Meaning they will not scale with too much people applying and then it becomes a red flag to the banks.

The one problem with all the groups I have seen is the lack of honest communication. Some communicate but mostly lies, others just don't communicate at all.

Agents or resellers should prove that things work before they promote, its that simple.

EXACTLY!

The wonderful world of the internet. A love and hate story. I love it because it brings people from all walks of life together in one place without even meeting them. I hate it because it also have people disguising behind emails and websites out frauding hard working americans.

I'm not the one to focus on negative so I'm going to bring positivity. Us as entrepreneurs know that in the mist of it all are stratgical skills suppose to kick in after failure. In getting corp funding quitting shoulding be a option. No one should let there bad experience alter their thinking that everyone out there are out scamming and scheming.

Think about it. Everybody on this board is after one thing. Funding. All the money we spent during the course of the year could have been put together ( in a escrow account i might add ) to secure corporate funding from a reputable source that actually do work. Truth be told the reason why the reputable source cost so much is not for the corp itself but to pay off the personal guarantor/cfo and the backend fee is for the corp and service itself.

I've already received corporate funding the beginning of last year from a source. It was costly but it worked. I had someone else handle it and I can't find this guy for nothing. Anyhow just to keep hope alive it works. It was just me and a couple of my partners who made some bad business deals that lead me back in search of funding.

We are the united states ( hopefully the majority on the board is if not no hard feelings ). United we stand. That's one of the reason why we such a powerful country. I guarantee if we unit through all this we all will come out on top. All the arguing, frustration and at each others neck will get us no where.

I'm not here to sell nothing just trying to bring unity. I have a suggestion of what we all can do but I'll wait to see what This Swiss funding brings. I'm not smarter than anyone on this board I just know how to take the emotions out of doing business which keeps me still focus and my stratgical skills sharp. Some people fail, sit back and wallow in tears while others keep moving despite their fears. food for thought.

reinvestor

Honestly I do not think SF is worth waiting for.  We just need to move on.  I agree with you reinvestor.  You have always had very insightful comments. I appreciate it.  You are right we need to be united with eachother.  There is power in numbers.  Maybe just maybe someone will find some legitimate funding.

I'm glad to see that some of you see what is going on. Most people apply for these types of programs because they want to believe that ALL people are going to do the right thing. That is what these scammers are hoping for.

Just think about what has happened in the financial services/banking industries over the last year or two. People with high FICO scores are seeing cards cancelled or lines reduced. Ask yourself, why is a financial service company going to extend a card to someone without doing a cursory credit check, i.e., FICO score?

here's what I've found on craigslist

DID "SWISS FUNDING" TRICK US ALL?

Date: 2009-11-06, 5:38PM EST

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I LOVE CRAIGSLIST! One dumbass that doesn't even have his facts straight is going to rile up this forum faster than the scams you people lost your money on. IF and thats a mighty big IF SF was a scam, I got duped just like every body else. I know a lot of forum posters wouldn't even begin to believe the hell SF has taken me and a few of the people in this forum through this past week. (Aren't you glad I told you no?)

Thankfully for me, I was not one of the greedy ones and I don't owe a single one of you people ANY money. So it doesn't work. Big deal. Try and try again. At least I know I'm busting my ass to find what looks real enough to believe in. The majority of you do nothing but sit and complain. None of you got taken by me. And I know all the people that I spoke with, I either adopted or charged minimal amounts to. I am not proud of pushing something that I wasn't 100% on. But I am young and I do have a lot to learn, this is definitely one of those lessons. Crucify me if you will. Hang me out like I am the bad person. Go for it. I dare you. But when my clients ARE sitting on their funding and you are still sitting on THIS forum complaining...hmmm.. I realize what I've been doing wrong. I've been too damn nice to the people that have been burned. Life AND Business is about risks. You roll the dice every day you open your eyes and every new program you signed on the dotted line for. So you either risk it and bloom or you wither and die. You win a few, you lose a few. Ehhh...I won't lose much sleep over it because my clients are A-1...

I think this whole thing points out how materialistic we have become to the point where we have no heart. In the past, people could do business without any legal documents needed because there was basic trust. Nowadays even with legal documents you can't trust people. How worse can it really get?

I think people need to be very careful about these schemes and simply put them under pressure to prove they are real.

This does not take away the responsibility of selling something that you had no knowledge that it works. An apology is better without qualifiers.

You could be just as legally liable as the SF guys are. In any case, anything could have happened. It does appear like something went wrong. Most scams would stay around and milk until time runs out, they are not around long enough to have done that.

april, april, april. I don't believe nobody on this forum is out to crucify you. I like you. You are a true entrepreneur. I believe in my heart that you would succeed in the business world. however. You attach to much emotions in what you do. There's no emotions in business. none. You make some good points in the never give up part. The only thing about it is that you can't be wrong and strong at the same time. Money is not the issue. Money come and goes. It's just life. People could get what they've lost right back. The only thing that couldn't be compensated for is time. You can't give that back. Waiting on however long time for something to work and it doesn't is priceless.

My last post was what I saw on craigslist. I was only the messenger. My only gripe with you is that you should try a program out first YOURSELF then once it works that's when you bring people along.

I'm not out to slander no one. I believe everybody on this board has something in common which brings us together here and there. Some got bad credit, little to no money with big dreams. Like I said before we could sit here and cry and fight with one another or we could pull together and achieve something we all want. Funding.

So april I'm not your enemy. We on the same team. We going to call this team "The NO FICO REQUIRED CREDIT CARD GROUP". This forum is the hottest one thus far. Maybe if we do come together and achieve some funding then we could all get together and laugh about these times. Today do turns into tommorrow and I'll be damn if I don't come up above it all.

So I'm about to finish up cooking my red snappers. My lights and gas still on fridge full so I have nothing to complain about. I have that I-will-not-lose-attitude so I have nothing to worry about. losing is never a option in my book. But I know from years of experience in order to win you got to lose. 99% of failure is what success is about.