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reinvestor

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Nov 01, 2009 8:20 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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wow. The board is heating up. I understand everybody's point of view. steelers1 made some good points. Proof is truth especially with all the scams that's floating around. however you shouldn't slander something unless you tried it first. Don't let your bad experience in the past affect your way of moving forward towards the future.

As for you april. Don't sell a product unless you tried it out. IF you never got funding for yourself or anybody then it wouldn't be wise for you to sell something you not 100% sure of. It's just common business sense. If SiF turns out to be a scam then you could be just as liable if any criminal charges or litigations come upon. conspiracy is conspiracy. ignorance of the law is unexcusable.

To all the business owners who out searching for funding. I understand how it is out there trying to start or run your business. Capital is definitely needed. You could sign up with some of these no fico programs as long as you not solely banking on it's success. In the mean time in between time you should focus on fixing your credit or focus on raising enough capital to move forward with those in the game that actually get corp funding and is reputable. Their expensive but good service is always costly. As I said in a past post that I paid alot of money but had gotten what I paid for.

In this business world today you need one or the other. MONEY OR GREAT CREDIT. PERIOD. Work on one or the other while waiting on one of these no fico progams to come through. Who said you couldn't have your cake and eat it too. I love all my fellow small business entrepreneurs. Your show the passion to want more even after many let downs. Never give up.

REinvestor

jahman10

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Nov 01, 2009 9:13 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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One other way to look at raising capital is to monetize your skills in terms of selling information. This could be seminars, books, Videos, online etc.. Try to solve a problem for potential customers and this can be done with relatively low upfront spending.

There are also more reliable Corporation funding routes out there, it just that they take 6 months or more. My experience is that you keep going for the 1 month scams and end up wasting 6 months easily.

Rs9996

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Nov 01, 2009 11:05 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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One other way to look at raising capital is to monetize your skills in terms of selling information. This could be seminars, books, Videos, online etc.. Try to solve a problem for potential customers and this can be done with relatively low upfront spending.

There are also more reliable Corporation funding routes out there, it just that they take 6 months or more. My experience is that you keep going for the 1 month scams and end up wasting 6 months easily.

 

 

 If you know of any routes shed some insight if you will!!!! All you are doing is make circles around the word SCAM!!!!!!!!!!



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jahman10

posts: 19

Nov 02, 2009 1:16 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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There are a lot of providers if you do a search on say "building Business Credit". I was saying that most of these providers would take at least 6 months to get you reasonable credit. I have been in the trap of these 1 month credit scams myself. Next step would be the longer term ones if the final few doesn't work out this month.

The other option is to boot strap and sell information products around my skill sets. If you have quality material, all you need to focus on is finding an established partner  with good customer based to market the product to. Basically, this is skill leverage.

In terms of long term credit builders, I heard that Corporate Credit Concepts is good.

steelers1

posts: 73

Nov 02, 2009 12:49 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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The main thing that always concerns me about these NO-FICO programs like SIF, London Exchange & SF is....In the beginning all these CHEERLEADERS aka BROKERS aka RESELLERS co-sign for these programs by promoting them BEFORE these programs ACTUALLY FUND SOMEBODY. Then 2 months later they all admit that it TURNED out to be a scam. Conveniently AFTER most of them got paid up-front.

cmedifast

posts: 33

Nov 02, 2009 9:26 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I have always been worried about these. There are just some things that sound too good to be true. Be careful or you could find yourself in something really complicated.

mmac

posts: 19

Nov 03, 2009 9:45 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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wow. The board is heating up. I understand everybody's point of view. steelers1 made some good points. Proof is truth especially with all the scams that's floating around. however you shouldn't slander something unless you tried it first. Don't let your bad experience in the past affect your way of moving forward towards the future.

As for you april. Don't sell a product unless you tried it out. IF you never got funding for yourself or anybody then it wouldn't be wise for you to sell something you not 100% sure of. It's just common business sense. If SiF turns out to be a scam then you could be just as liable if any criminal charges or litigations come upon. conspiracy is conspiracy. ignorance of the law is unexcusable.

To all the business owners who out searching for funding. I understand how it is out there trying to start or run your business. Capital is definitely needed. You could sign up with some of these no fico programs as long as you not solely banking on it's success. In the mean time in between time you should focus on fixing your credit or focus on raising enough capital to move forward with those in the game that actually get corp funding and is reputable. Their expensive but good service is always costly. As I said in a past post that I paid alot of money but had gotten what I paid for.

In this business world today you need one or the other. MONEY OR GREAT CREDIT. PERIOD. Work on one or the other while waiting on one of these no fico progams to come through. Who said you couldn't have your cake and eat it too. I love all my fellow small business entrepreneurs. Your show the passion to want more even after many let downs. Never give up.

 

REinvestor



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Bravo Reinvestor, Very well said. I don't post much on this board anymore but I do read it. And it is guys like you that put things in perspective. After getting burned by the london exchange. I was tired of all the fly by night sideways companies saying they will get you funding for upfront fees. you are on the right path when you mentioned fixing your credit. I to have the same mentality. So after the london exchange B.S. I did some research and found someone to fix my credit and get me corperate credit. The reason That I believe this guy is legit is that when I came across his service I found that he was ripped off by a credit repair guy and was fed up with all the scams. Little did he know that I was ripped of by the same guy also. He proved to me that the people that he uses are legitimate and do great work. He is not in the credit repair himself but the people he uses are, and they are great. His end is the corperate side. I am on board as of this week, and it only cost me about eight hundred dollars for the credit repair. I will not reveal who they are until I know for sure that it has worked for me. I will post my results in about three weeks.  "NEVER GIVE UP!"              mmac.
Maina82

posts: 28

Nov 05, 2009 6:20 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Eric Buam's program is a indeed fraud.....run!

mickharold

posts: 51

Nov 05, 2009 6:36 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Maina 82:

What makes you say that? Why did you not post your reasonings? Are you referring to the CPN program again? Please clarify.

mickharold 

steelers1

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Nov 06, 2009 5:26 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hey Liz & Mike,

Are you guys in the 1st group that was to receive funding today or Monday?

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