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JSIWC

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May 29, 2007 6:36 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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check out www.cakecentral.com - tons of info about the entrepeneural bakery business and look at www.cakeboss.com - could be very helpful to you also
AndyCosta68

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May 31, 2007 9:38 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I remember reading in another thread that some churches would rent their kitchen as well.

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Entrevisor

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May 31, 2007 4:41 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Abrac,

Without knowing where you are specifically located, I can only provide some general guidance. First off, it seems you need to find an establishment similar to http://kitchenchicago.com/, which is "a fully equiped, commercially licensed, shared use kitchen in Chicago, IL, allowing you to build your business on an as needed basis with lowered risk and minimized start-up costs."

Additionally, you may want to look into joining  the Culinary Business Group, http://www.culinarybusinessgroup.com/ . These like minded individuals may be able to provide some guidance as to your specific location and need.

Also, I would highly recommend scoping out your city for restaurants that are only open certain hours, for instance only serving dinner. Smaller ones would likely gladly work out an arrangement to rent out their kitchen to you in the morning for a fair hourly rate. Or, you could possibly consider a partnership with a local establishment.

Other than the ideas above, I suggest contacting local non-profits/churches/clubs that have a kitchen which would suit your needs and approach them in establishing a win-win. For instance, since you are a start-up maybe suggest a percentage of your proceeds, rather than a fixed expense like rent, will go to their cause/fund/charity/etc.

Good Luck!!

P.S. If you provide your city/state then I would be glad to do a little more detailed research for you. Also, please share a little more details as to what will be in the oven.



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abrac

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Jun 01, 2007 10:19 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Good morning ACosta,

Thank you for the info. I will look into it. I heard someone mention it before. I`ll definitely look into it.

abrac

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Jun 01, 2007 10:27 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks, I am based in Los Angeles. The sites you named sound like great starter points.  
abrac

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Jun 01, 2007 10:30 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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        I LOVE the cakeboss site.  The software is on the top of my Business Needs list. Simple yet useful. I joined the Cake Central website.  I really enjoy the site. It has tons of info.
abrac

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Jun 03, 2007 11:40 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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        THANK YOU!!!!!!I am ever so grateful. That info is exactly what I needed.  All of your suggestions & tips are full of very helpful info. I have been so overwhelmed with my search for a part time rental kitchen space, I thought I would retire before I found one. I can`t wait until monday to contact the Chefs Kitchen.  You are appreciated. I`ll keep you posted. 

Thank you again.

A Brackett

Sweet Dreamery Desserts

RetiredMember

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Aug 27, 2007 10:00 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I`ll need a lot more details to even give a ballpark number.

Answer the "Kipling six"... who, what, when, where, why and how.
Where is the location and what are the average rents for the space and location you will need?
What do you have for business assets and what will you need?
Who are you marketing to... and what will it take to reach them?
How will you operate this business? Are you qualified?

And a whole lot more.

It could be as little as 20-30 grand, or it could run well into the six figures... all depends on you and what you want to do.

You see why we need a little more info from you now?

Nick

 

abrac

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Aug 27, 2007 10:43 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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OMG! I have the answer to a few of those questions. I`ll put that info together with what i already have & post it soon. Your time & effort is very much appreciated.
RetiredMember

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Aug 27, 2007 11:14 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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There`s more...
For one very good reference for a bakery start-up: click this link.
 
Here`s one example of a NYC bakery....
 
Security deposit = $4,000
Construction= $28,250
Start-up Inventory= $3,000
Equipment= $35,000
Pots & Pans= $2,500
Permits= $255
Total Start-Up Costs= $73,005

Rent & Utilities= $2,800 a month
Staffing= $5,143 a month
Inventory= $3,000 a month
Insurance= $700 a month
Rough Monthly Expenses= $11,643 (without owners salary)
Start-up budget should have been at least $150,000.00.
 
Didyaknow: The Emyth Revisited by Micheal Gerber is a business book about someone who created a bakery. (It`s a story about a women who owns a pie company and talks about how to run a successful business. )
 
A quick search produced these links:
 
Nick
OldNikko2007-8-28 0:34:13
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