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vwebworld

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Jun 10, 2009 10:44 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Edgar - with the code error in Joomla, does that mean it`s not currently working for anyone using this as their ecommerce platform?

How does a template from template monstor affect SEO?  Most likely if I found one I liked, I`d still make some modifications to give it my own look and feel.  And how is this different from creating a page using what the open source solution (for example Joomla) provides for web page creation?
 
Typically, templates do not affect SEO... but are more about design.
 
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profitizer

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Jun 11, 2009 5:43 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Profitizer

i guess i just assumed the open source solution took care of security for credit cards, etc. via https.  Are you talking about when someone enters their credit card info or for log in to the admin panel, etc.?

Overall, I hope the admin part isn`t too time consuming such as patches, etc. and I`d hate to re-do a lot of work!  I`m going to have to research XHTML nd AJAX as those are definitely new to me.  Great advice about the bots and spamming - I never would have thought of that or think I have to worry about them.
 
I do not agree totally with Profitizer. To admin a ZenCart site you do not need to know PHP.  Just ask Janie - http://houseofjerky.net (a ZenCart site).
 
As far as https: - SSL for your site. That is separate from the ecommerce program. You can run an ecommerce program with or without an SSL (although without an SSL you may lose customers). Once an SSL is installed, you would configure your ecommerce program to accommodate it. This is a simple matter to accomplish.
 
I think much of what Profitizer notes are vaild issues, but these would be addressed by an experienced web host and/or web designer. I have installed many ecommerce sites using fantastico. At times the program version available through fantastico may lack behind the current version, but ZenCart and other ecommerce programs do not change a lot - that is, there is not a new version every month or even every year.
 
~Roland



Roland and Fred,

My main objective was to address what to consider in going the open source route.

I`ve installed many software open source packages both free and fee-based and in some of the more popular packages of all types, you`ll find community users complain that they have to apply a patch or upgrade for whatever reason (normally bug fixes and security) on a semi-regular basis.  No software package is really immune.  For Zen Cart, Roland seems to have answered at least that question for you. 

You always want to enter into something with your eyes open versus finding out when it`s difficult, embarrassing and/or time-consuming to resolve.  I`ve seen or read about that situation too many times over the years.  And by the way, there are some very experienced webmasters and web hosts who don`t necessarily recommend installing older software versions just for that very reason (security and bug fixes) and I personally agree for my own purposes, but that doesn`t mean it shouldn`t be done. As Roland mentioned, it works fine for him.

As far as my mentioning PHP as an ability to have, typically, once the software is installed, most times, you don`t need to know PHP especially for those mature packages. It`s just that once you get into learning a software package, you are bound to find something you want to customize to better fit your business as one size doesn`t always fit all.  Especially since you have a programming background, you`ll tend to look at things from a different perspective than those without that background.

Although I hear folks say quite often, "it`s so-and-so`s responsibility..." like a programmer, designer, employee, etc., the final responsibility rests with the business owner regardless.  Therefore, if you go into having a website built and installed whether open source, template, or other, it is still up to you to make sure that patches get installed when there are some, especially for security and performance fixes. You`ll have much more to worry about if you experience an exploit by someone who has entirely too much time on their hands (which is usually how the developer finds out about security holes) or if your customer uses that software and a feature doesn`t behave properly and it had already been fixed in that later version that was available but not installed.  You`ll find out much more by spending some time reading the software`s community forum threads to see many of the common issues and whether those issues are important to you.

That`s all I was trying to say.  Just be aware of what you are embarking upon.  Sometimes software looks quite easy and logical and seems right for an application, but as you peel away the onion skin, you`re eyes sometimes do water and you may find yourself really crying.  If that happens, it`s preferred that it be early on so you don`t have to shut down your site or disable a software application whether temporarily or permanently to deal with that which should have been known up-front.

Good luck in your endeavor.


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vwebworld

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Jun 11, 2009 8:17 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Profitizer,
 
All good and valid points  which as you say, a person should have in mind when deciding what to do for setting up an ecommerce site.
 
Since I am familiar the ZenCart and other open source ecommerce solutions, I may think it is easier than it really is... plus, my approach is to do everything with the ecommerce set-up so the site owner only needs to deal with the day to day operation of his/her site.
 
~Roland
 
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Jun 11, 2009 11:39 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I`d agree that what you want done can probably be done with ZenCart, but I disagree that design doesn`t effect SEO. I think the design of a site can have an impact on everything - sales, SEO, success. Unfortunately, no major cart software that I have come across has solved the design issue in the way that I would like ... but I do keep hoping. Until then, there are packages that are "good enough" lol.
vwebworld

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I`d agree that what you want done can probably be done with ZenCart, but I disagree that design doesn`t effect SEO. I think the design of a site can have an impact on everything - sales, SEO, success. Unfortunately, no major cart software that I have come across has solved the design issue in the way that I would like ... but I do keep hoping. Until then, there are packages that are "good enough" lol.
 
I agree a poorly designed site will affect its` success. Let me clarify my statement about using a template for an ecommerce site (like ZenCart).
 
The SEO features are part of the ZenCart program, not part of the template. The basic difference between using the default ZenCart layout and a template is the information/content is displayed differently on the web page (and the graphics are different).
 
So, the SEO feature of having the product name in the "title" of each web page does not change because you use a template. Neither does the meta tag information.
 
The presentation of product information can vary, some templates may or may not include a "model #" area.... however, many of those fields can be turned on or off through the admin panel.
 
The presentation of what appears on the home page, may also vary... but hear again the admin panel controls if "featured" items, or "Specials, or "banners" appear on the home page (not the template).
 
ZenCart`s admin panel and  its CSS design has evolved to a place where most items impacting SEO are controlled through the admin panel and not by the template.  OR if the template does not use those SEO items, you can still turn them on through the admin panel.
 
~Roland
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