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CraigL

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Jul 07, 2008 3:47 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Webworld (Roland) has several times mentioned, in other posts, that Google changed their Analytics code. We hadn`t really paid much attention until the other night, when we realized we`re not getting any new data.

Looking over the account settings and instruction papers, we did a status check and found that there are no analytics installed. There are, they`re just the old code.

If you`re using Google Analytics, then you`ll want to pay attention to changing over to the new code. Otherwise, you`re not going to be "seen" as we go forward.

Thanks, Roland :-) Wouldn`t have checked otherwise.
phantomindeea

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Jul 07, 2008 4:13 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Indeed, good to know

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Jul 08, 2008 1:57 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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So that explains why I haven`t been getting any traffic according to Google when my traffic has actually been increasing.

Interesting. Thanks for the heads up.


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Jul 08, 2008 10:55 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Google is still providing the legacy code on their Analytics page.

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Demiglaz

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Jul 08, 2008 11:41 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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In my opinion, we should all stop our pre-occupation with Google.  Indexing, page rank, latest algorithm guesses, latest changes to Google Analytics, major (deep) crawl frequency, blah blah blah.
 
Let`s face it.  Google has gotten too big for its britches, and it`s time we all focused our attention on non-Google events; e.g., the near-future offerings of MSN and Yahoo!.  More competition among SEs that deliver optimally relevant search results and quality advertising options is a good thing, and soon Yahoo! and MSN will be delivering.  Increased ad revenue will allow Yahoo! and MSN to buy the gazillion servers it takes to match Google`s crawl efficiency, indexing rate, and user-desired relevancy of search results.
 
In terms of practicing what I preach, I have deleted Google Analytics tracking scripts from all of my sites (my sites` traffic is none of Google`s business), I have canceled my Adwords accounts (never produced any meaningful traffic or conversions anyway), I have canceled my Adsense program (many site users said the ads were an annoying distraction from the otherwise valuable content I provide), and as a final hurrah, I canceled my GMail account this morning.  I will still use Google Webmaster Tools because they are useful, but that`s my last and final tie to Google.
 
Without question, Google remains the SE giant.  No argument there.  But by catering to the giant, in an unthinking and almost compulsive way, we assure the giant`s continuing status and tenure.  For the love of God people, let`s wake up.  Let`s introduce some competition.  Let`s have a greater say in how the internet operates.  Let`s push for greater transparency.  Let`s push for greater clarity.  Let`s push for true relevance.
 
If you agree with my call to action, the single most important thing we can do is to stop putting Google on a pedastal.  The second most important thing we can do is to start paying attention to and supporting Google alternatives.  Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.  Let`s not let Google become absolutely corrupted at our expense.
 
Respectfully,
 
Demiglaz
 
 
CraigL

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Jul 09, 2008 12:39 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hey there, Demiglaz,
This isn`t about catering to Google, from our point of view, at least. Although we can`t prove it, we do seem to notice an increase in crawling, better indexing, and so forth with our having the code on the pages.

Yes it`s true the old code works, but not the same number. So if it`s necessary (I didn`t understand the mumbo-jumbo about proxy servers or whatever), you can use the legacy code. But, you have to change the number itself---the tracking number.

We don`t much care about the reports, other than to say, "Hey, how cool...! Look`it dat! We got more people comin` to the site!" It`s nice to know from where people are coming, though, as it helps us focus our efforts in other marketing tactics. But basically, we seem to notice a connection between having the analytics and being more often crawled. Can`t prove it....just feel it. :-)
Demiglaz

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Jul 09, 2008 2:23 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Craig, with all due respect, I think you`re missing the point.  Yes, there may be a correlation between Google Analytics participation and page indexing (page indexing in Google).  My point is, who cares?  By getting sucked into Google correaltions such as this, or any other--real or imagined--you are vesting Google with power it wouldn`t otherwise have.  If that`s okay with you, it`s okay with me (out of respect for your position, but in no sense to suggest that we don`t need to fight against the Google-opoly for a greater good). 
 
If all of us who participate in this forum spent half as much of our time fostering SE competition as we do kowtowing to Its Emminence Google, we`d all be further ahead in our web objectives and aspirations.
 
I, for one, have had egough of succumbing to, and by my actions and inactions promoting, a virtual SE monopoly. 
 
Demiglaz
houseofjerkyjanie

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Jul 09, 2008 2:38 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I`m confused. So, if google search, does the job to index and find your site, why wouldn`t you want that? 
vwebworld

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Jul 09, 2008 9:44 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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In a competitive world the dominance of Google as a search engine almost requires web site owners to at least consider how their site`s presentation, content, coding, linking, etc. may affect search results. For, it is beneficial to have good Google search results.
 
Google certainly reaches into other aspects of the online world and provides tools that you may or may not find useful.  I do not use all the tools nor do I rely on analytics as the absolute truth for website stats.... but it can provide useful information.
 
On another forum we`ve had a discussion about reducing the use of Google and how to achieve more search engine competition... if the word spreads through forums, and social sites and enough people agree to participate, it may be possible to make an impact.  Demiglaz, your efforts are a start... now to convince others to join the cause.
 
~Roland
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Jul 09, 2008 10:44 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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"On another forum we`ve had a discussion about reducing the use of Google and how to achieve more search engine competition... if the word spreads through forums, and social sites and enough people agree to participate, it may be possible to make an impact.  Demiglaz, your efforts are a start... now to convince others to join the cause."

As long as OUR clients find us largely through Google, then we will jump through whatever hoops are required to be on the first page of Google searches.  We, as web site owners do not dictate to the search engines.  Our visitors determine that decision for us. 



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