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Tabor88

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Jul 27, 2008 2:22 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I have a website idea that I`m having developed.  I have and attorney that is working with me for equity in the business, and I also have a really high-end web design company out of NYC that is interested in partnering to build the site.  They have offered to build my prototype site for a highly discounted rate in exchange for equity in the business and the guarantee that they will build the full-blown site once the actual funding is in place.  

My question is;

I need to raise money to pay for my end of the prototype site to be built.  I`m looking for somewhere between 5-10k for the site and marketing funds.  Two of my best friends have parents with money who may be interested and I`m wondering what type of deal(s) I should / could offer them in exchange for funds? 

Thanks!

Matthew




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robertj

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Jul 27, 2008 2:43 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Matthew,

Normally, I would suggest that you discuss the detail of your "offer" with your attorney (if they are a qualified securities specialist) - but since he/she is also an owner there may be some parochial interest on his/her part.

Also, when you agreed to use equity as payment for services - you essentially established a "valuation" for your business - so you need to consider how that plays into your next deal.

Finally, $5-10K is a pretty small amount for a securities type deal (often called equity exchange) and I suspect you will probably need considerably more in the future - so you may want to consider some type of debt deal.

Has the business structure been put in place? 

 



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Tabor88

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Jul 27, 2008 3:14 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Thanks for your reply Robert.

Yes, we will need considerably more funds in the future and we are still in the incorporation process.


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robertj

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Jul 28, 2008 11:23 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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If you are in process of incorporating then you haven`t consumated formal equity agreements with the attorney and web company?

 



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FastVentures

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Mathew, there is hardly a straightforward answer to your question and while I agree with RobertJ that your immediate capital requirements of $5,000-$10,000 are probably not sufficient to consider an equity deal, I wouldn’t recommend to use a valuation that is based on a services for equity type of arrangement either.

A good way to put a very tentative value on a seed or development stage company is by using a Discounted Cash Flow Valuation. Since you managed to secure the support of an attorney and a web designer based on an equity stake in your company, I am assuming that you have completed a business plan or project summary that includes more or less detailed financial projections. If these projections include a Cash Flow Statement, you can use the Free Cash Flow that you believe your company will generate every year and use it as a basis to put a very tentative value on your company. In order to generate a more or less credible valuation, you will need to adopt so-called discount factors, which basically represent the risk/uncertainty of you or you company achieving these free cash flow balances every year. It’s therefore no surprise that these discount factors can be drastic (up to 200% or more) in year 1 and 2 and gradually decrease with the company becoming more mature. With other words, if you project that your company will have generated a free cash balance of $250,000 in year 1, it’s not uncommon to assume that the company will actually have a negative cash balance of $250,000 (based on a discount factor of 200%). Just google Discounted Cash Flow Valuation or DCF Valuation and I’m sure you will be able to download the required spreadsheet.

As far as extending deals to friends and family is concerned, try putting something together that you can live with and that they may find appealing as well. Since they are your friends’ parents, I am sure their decision to back you will not entirely rest with the fundamentals of your proposal. RobertJ is right again, try to secure a loan, rather than equity and if need be, sweeten it with an option to covert into equity after 2 years.

I hope this helps.


Mark



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JLove

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Aug 07, 2008 11:22 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Can`t you get a convertible loan (convert to equity at some point in time)?



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