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robertj

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Sep 16, 2008 2:52 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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While an interesting concept - I think you may have some serious issues in the US with the SEC.

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robertj

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Sep 16, 2008 4:10 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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There are regulations and restrictions on non public securities.



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robertj

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Sep 16, 2008 4:44 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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It`s not just about the disclosures.

I think you need to consult with a US securities attorney before you promote your service in the US.



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FastVentures

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Sep 17, 2008 10:48 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Oh my gosh!

I don’t know anything about the laws and regulations in Ukraine, but if you are operating this business out of the U.S., own any assets in the U.S., or do business with U.S. citizens, you will be exposing yourself to serious financial and even criminal sanctions.

The best advice I have for you is to immediately take your site offline again and stay out of this business if you don’t know what you’re doing.

In addition, you can’t use “The virtual NASDAQ for Entrepreneurs” as NASDAQ is a registered trademark of the National Association of Securities Dealers.


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fullyfunded1

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Sep 20, 2008 1:09 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Yikes, ZiQui, yikkkkes.

Here`s the thing - the idea is noble, no doubt about that. Empowering the people, democritizing the process of cap formation etc. But - and this is a big one - please don`t be offended, this is meant in the best way - you have not done any of the necessary research. And your idea, while certainly noble - is based on something of a false premise. That false premise has been widely perpetrated unknowingly by the us media (which doesn`t understand the financial regs either). The premise is this (and by the way this is an annalogous situatiion, but you`ll understand what I mean in a moment). Remember the day trading movement that happened in the US in the late 1990s? Firms advertised on TV that for the first time in history, you could buy and sell stock on the exchanges electronically, and compete directly with the market makers on the Nasdaq. Millions of folks went into day trading and some of them made significant money. But - and here is the salient issue: no individual was EVER empowered to tradedirectly on the exchanges, despite appearances and commentary to the contrary. Every day trader used software offered by a brokerage house to trade. This software contains gazillions of devices to keep trades done on it compliant. However, as an end user, none of this was apparent. The situation was in fact like this: additional data gave folks better insight into what was currently going on in the market. But those folks, who would trade, were trading VIA the brokerage firm. And all trading activity was supervised, at least insofar as compliance was concerned. There are many regulations which must be operated in compliance with- all designed to protect the investor - and the beauty of the software was that it made it seem like you had "direct access". But there was no such thing in reality. Just like a cruise ship has nice smooth hallways and chandeliers, it is an illusion of sorts. The cruise ship has pipes and wires running everywhere - but you can`t see them because they are hidden beneath a carefully made veneer. Just look in a merchant ship sometime. Endless systems in plain view. Increadible complexity. So what the heck does this have to do with private capital formation? A lot.
There are gazillions of regs governing the sale of non-registered private offerings.     They are complex, and the punishments for violation are draconian. The regs, as silly as this sounds, are designed to protect the investing public. They should be in place because there are a lot of scammers out there, and investors deserve some sort of protection. But my point is this: it is a flawed concept to try and cut out the middleman. The process is so complex that you want the involvement of pros. Now if you could come up with a system that takes all of the regs into account and works to provide a user interface that is useable and not intimidating (the cruise ship) why then you`d have something. But the idea you have now, though noble, would lead to the fleecing of a lot of people - and likely jail time for the operators. But don`t take my word for it, look around.  This, by the way, imho, is one of the reasons that none of those websites out there claiming to introduce entrepreneurs to investors, and there are dozens, seem to work.
ZiQui

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Sep 25, 2008 10:00 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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BS"D

Anyway, the great thing about open source Drupal is that the investment is minimal and the software is flexible. I don`t want to risk legal problems and I don`t have the possibility of dealing with SEC registration issues now though I think it can be done and I intend to develop the idea at a later date.

So I am recasting it as a virtual game/social interaction site based on the concepts of investment in and development of ideas but no investment in real currency will take place on the site even if participants move onto a sister site to really set up the ideas they develop.

Can this be moved to another forum about new ideas? Otherwise I`ll repost the new site (same URL) in another forum/thread when it is ready.

Raisecapital02

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Sep 25, 2008 11:45 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You need to find out the laws in your country first. The SEC does regulate in your country, but you may regulations in your country that may be similar to the SEC. If so, you are climbing a sharp wall. Good luck with new ideas.
Raisecapital02

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Sep 25, 2008 11:54 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You could start this in Second Life. You will be trading in their currency, but it will allow you to get some of these ideas across. But, they must be making an investment into a Second Life business virtually while there is a actual real business supporting the Second Life business. This is a loop hole.
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