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entreprenerd

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Apr 22, 2007 8:40 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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BrandAlchemy - I know you have talked about using "The Secret" recently. Remember how it says that if you give attention to something that you dislike, it will grow? Perhaps we best drop this subject. I just wanted to give you a gentle reminder to change your thinking to something more positive. I`m hoping you`ll appreciate this?

To all - Seriously, I got my usual daily email from the Oprah show telling me what was coming up. I don`t know any of those people highlighted, but the title struck me as something that several people on here might be interested in. I didn`t intend this thread to turn into something ugly. Let`s just drop it. Or perhaps if you want you can hash it out by PMing each other.

Have a good week!

BrandAlchemy

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Apr 22, 2007 9:17 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Chris,

While I appreciate your perspective, I would also remind you that StartupNation is not a moderated forum, although you are attempting to moderate this one. The topic will die out on it`s own, like the rest do.

I don`t see where this `turned into something ugly`. I just don`t take business advice from thug rap artists. And for Oprah to put him on that pedestal, while her choice, also says something about her stance on this issue. Maybe she`ll bring up the issue of disrespecting women in rap, maybe not.

I don`t see this discussion as a bad thing. Understanding your market is vital to selling to them. Russell Simmons has done that, and apparently they like rappers who say this stuff. While I personally find that disgusting, it`s not illegal.

I won`t be commenting on it in this thread again.
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Well now that the subject has had its tides turned, I`d like to say that hip-hop artists are some of the most entrepreneurial individuals in America, and that we can, and should, take business advice from these people.

The reason?  Artists work on an extremely low budget to produce music, and then take to the most innovative ways of selling their product.  This is the same as entrepreneurs working with little resources to realize their business goals.

The business lessons that I have learned by having some close friends who are hip-hop artists (and do NOT produce music demeaning women, talking about guns, but DO strive to bring "conscience" back into hip-hop through their educated rhymes) are this:

1) Marketing- If you walk down the boardwalk in Venice Beach, you have rappers come up to you, put headphones on you, and make you listen to their music.  Then they have CD`s handy for you to buy.  How innovative is this?

2) Finding a balance- Artists have to produce GREAT products, AND deal with the business aspects of promoting product, booking concerts, etc.  Some artists have an amazing sense of this balance, and those are the ones that prove successful.

3) Understanding your audience- Artists know who their audience is, and they know what they want.  They simply fill the void that is left open in the market, and they capitalize.  Isn`t this the underlying success that surrounds business?

So when America looks at the rap industry, they look at the bad things.  They look at the duragatory comments.  They catch blame for the bad.  But with this post I challenge you to learn from the entrepreneurial struggle of an artist.  I challenge you to seek to the business advice from an artist, because these are some of the most creative, innovative, and entrepreneurial minded people on the planet. 

 

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Something I found today in CNN also backs the character of Russell Simmons, where he is battling to get offensive words out of the hip-hop industry...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/04/23/usa.hiphop.reut/ index.html

 

EGGardner

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Apr 28, 2007 1:05 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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As far as I can see Jeff, you are the one who bought up the race issue! Although I do agree in that it is a bit of a contradiction for someone who has made a lot of fame and gained fame through rap which has been notorious in how it portrays women. However two wrongs don`t make a right!

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