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silverdragonrs

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Nov 11, 2007 12:05 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I have developed a combination of inventions that improve upon and compliment an already exsisting invention. Before moving on with a patent on any of my original contributions I would first like to build working, replicable prototypes. This may take several alpha prototypes to make replicable and fine tune function. Once I have reached the beta phase I am sure I can obtain financing. But untill then my resources are very limited. On top of that I have never gone past the dream/design phase of any of my past inventions so I have little to no experience in the area. Here are a few (vague) details on my project. Lets see if there is any help out there to be offered.
 
It is an overunity device (I know "guh, bored sigh") a magnetic motor to be exact. I have worked up an improvement on the torbay magnetic motor in argentena. In addition to those improvements I have designed several assists, a generator, and a torque - rpm (or vice versa) transmission as well as a few concept frictionless bearings all for use in a modular inline system for virtually free energy (the only cost is slow degausing of th magnets requiring replacing aprox once every 200 - 400 years and grease/mechanical wear and tear costs.)
 
The parts I will need custom built are as follows
1 Base plate
1 custome rotor
30 tapered rods
60 Brackets with attached bearings to act as hinge
twin gear combo
pressed magnetic(engraved) bearings
more....
 
I have general cad documents but more detail is needed (i lack the CAD skill)
 
I am looking for financial or mechanical assistance.. or simple advice is welcome.
Thanks
Danny
CookieMonster

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Nov 11, 2007 12:19 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Overunity ... as in perpetual motion ... zero point energy ... something along these lines?
silverdragonrs

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Nov 11, 2007 12:20 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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free energy yes
txbassguy

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Nov 13, 2007 2:40 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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ahhh - the old free energy motor concept again.


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silverdragonrs

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Nov 13, 2007 10:30 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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yes yes i know... its beaten to heck and back.. well I happened to come across the torbay motor online and a forum discussing it and believe I know how to not only replicate it but improve on its design 1000 fold. (at least no exaggeration) I just do not have the means to produce the parts I need to assemble a prototype. My design is far to complex to build using redneck parts out of the garage... and i somehow doubt that epoxy and balsa wood is gonna do it.
 
so... you got any sources for cheap machining?
Degrees

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Nov 13, 2007 11:03 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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How about this place?
emachineshop.com

You can design your parts on this companies` proprietary CAD software. They give instant pricing on parts. You will need some CAD knowledge, but you might be able to hire someone to help you out.



silverdragonrs

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Nov 13, 2007 11:13 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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i already did that one... they want over 3,000USD just to machine enough parts for one machine! ..... I am hoping to find something a bit simpler... everything that i need can be done on a computerized mill or casting. 
they want over 500USD just for 26 one inch sheet metal brackets!  (its a one inch square of sheet metal with four holes drilled in it and bent into a squared off U shape.) I could do it in my garage except that i need each one to be exactly the same... and that i could not do very easily.
 
 
nah i think i am going to have to go local on this one... just not sure where to go to start... what kind of shop would have a computerized mill or aluminum melting facilities in a backward little town like this lol...
scottg

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Nov 14, 2007 2:25 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You might consider finding a high school or college that has mechanical designers or engineers-in-training who would do much of the detail work as free training. You`ll have to be patient with their errors, but the price will probably be right.
 
Another possibility is to find a local `inventors club` that has some mechanically inclined folks involved. They may be willing to give you technical advice and help you out as a hobby (from their perspective) project. You could offer them some advice of your own in your area of experience.
 
Good luck!


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silverdragonrs

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Nov 14, 2007 3:56 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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that is some really useful advice scottg thanks a lot... I will check into that... there are several projects that I am working with the college with anyways... whats one more :D
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We`re dieing for TechShop to open in our area as it sounds perfect for us (et tu?)
 
We found the companies we used for our prototypes and initial runs by working the material suppliers; e.g., we needed cold rolled steel parts, so we canvased the spot and salvage suppliers to find who`s buying raw material and is "fun and hungry", and then drove around to various shops; it took some time, and we ended up using a couple of companies, but it was well worth the effort (and we met some great people; for the most part! LOL)


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