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mishshell

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May 26, 2009 11:17 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi Joseph

Thanks so much for your feedback. It`s very helpful for me as i`m starting out on a shoe string budget to do my homework when it comes to manufacturing. Building good relationships in business is key I think it makes your knowledge and network stronger and bigger. Again thanks so much for your thoughts. Do you have anyone you can refer in China? My product is geared towards the youth market from ages 5+ and up.

Thank you again

mishshell

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May 26, 2009 11:18 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi tiger taco, thanks so much for taking the time to give some feedback. i`m in the process of weighing all options right now. do you have any suggestions for folks i can work with here state side?
TigerTaco

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May 26, 2009 11:56 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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You can use ThomasNet to find manufacturers/suppliers ... you can do what we did and that`s going around your local area and finding companies by trial and error; and we found folks at trade shows (and doing what you`re doing now) ... you can also use professionals who do all of this sourcing for you ... it`s a matter of how hands-on and comfortable you are with things.
 
Again, I`m just saying there are reasons for not going to China (and some other countries) and you can still off-shore for savings (we make our plastic tacos in Taiwan; our closer cost equivant is Mexico; when we next scale up we`ll again take a look at the U.S. but right now we`re not big/volume to make it work).
 
I don`t know where you are in your process, and youth market isn`t materially descriptive, but this is the kind of thing that you have to plan on taking some time ... we took nine months to create our plastic version from our steel ones and that is with knowing a lot about what we wanted and a real simple part.
 
There are also regions of our country where certain industries are concentrated and depending upon your product and overall price (we`re a "penny part") you can get some attention; e.g., Detroit and auto parts makers are very open right now ... plastic, steel, electronics, etc. ... it`s worth your time to take a look at who`s making what, where, and why.  You also have large, multinational corporations where you can deal on a local level and still have them deliver you cost savings by the actual manufacturing/assembling in one of their off-shore facilities (most of them own their own plants in China too ... sigh).
 
When you have "all options" you have almost too many choices; not a good thing and you need to start weeding down your "clutter" by setting some basic standards and requirements; it`s all up to you, but when you figure out your costs and materials and logistics and the million other details of getting from the drawing to the store you have a lot of decisions to make ... it`s not easy or certain, but it`s done all the time and you`re the right captain for your ship right now (that`s just my guess; I`m assuming you`re someone who wants to make something new and is not interested in "money for nothing" kinds of entrepreneurship).
 
Too many words ... no help to you; I could tell you who I use (they are on my website) or give you a lot of companies I know, but there`s not really a shortcut to the education you need to get to know what you need to know to make the best decisions you need to make ... it`s a journey and while I can tell you why we`ve done what we`ve done and what it means to us, you can`t really model/use our specific experiences unless you`re in a similar frame of mind and/or have a real simple part kind of thing.
mishshell

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May 26, 2009 12:10 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Chris thanks so much for the feedback. I`m definitely on the journey road now. i`m using the thomasnet to make some calls here stateside to ask questions and gain knowledge as well as other sites overseas (alibaba). there is definitely an over abundance of information and it`s overwhelming on whats the best thing to do but i dont want to over analyze where i paralyze myself. there is nothing like my product on the market for kids. my product will be an accessory to an already existing popular product. my prototype will be arriving tomorrow and i`ll be doing a focus group. based on how that goes i`m off to the races on getting prodcution done (small scale). i appreciate the guidance all very important for someone starting out :)

nevadascul

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May 26, 2009 12:42 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hi mishshell,

There are many computer conferencing options available.  If your China manufacturer has a computer that you can email to, you can also set up a live conference through your computer.  This would allow your manufacturer to see your CAD drawings that are displayed on your computer  screen.  The process is called computer conferencing (also called web conferencing).  One site that provides this service is called Go To My Meeting.com.  Do a Google or Yahoo search for "Computer Conferencing" and you will find many more sites.

One final suggestion if you haven`t picked a manufacturer in China is to look south of the boarder.  With the God Awful NAFTA in place, you might actually be able to get a better deal.  You won`t have the import fees and delays that commonly plague orders coming in from China.  (Sorry for editorializing there)

Good luck

nevadascul5/26/2009 1:12 PM


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mishshell

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May 26, 2009 1:09 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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That`s a great idea. The manufacturer`s there are asking for Adobe Illustrator files. I do have a CAD rendering of my product and can show them my product via web conferencing. thank you for the idea.
patentandtrademark

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May 26, 2009 5:59 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Good thing the USA does not have a repressive government [such as confiscating over half of the income of most readers of this sentence].



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APUC

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Nov 03, 2009 6:53 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I agree with Chris,

I was also going to keep my mouth shut. I do product development and injection molding here in California.

It makes me sick to read all the posts about going to China so glibly and without any second thoughts. When someone here has an idea the first thing they do is go to China.

I know a lot of people out of work. No one will have money to buy your products if you guys don't even give American manufacturers a chance to bid the jobs.

No offense to anyone, I understand we do need to make money, but going offshore is not always the best option.


Just airing some of my sick feelings,

CW

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