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oldscout

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Aug 07, 2010 6:15 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I'm just now launching my new venture that I funded 100%. I did everything necessary to bring this project to the launching pad - even driving the truck to install at the first location. I have every reason to believe it will be a success and I want to scale-up the venture in the near future to multiple locations.

My problem is I'm short on cash. I've spoken to certain persons (prospective partners) who expressed interest in funding my build-out.

My question: If the prospective partners put up 100% of the cash and I do everything to make the venture work, how much should I expect to receive in terms of equity in the business? Thanks in advance.

robertj

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Aug 08, 2010 11:56 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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oldscout,

Ultimately, the division of equity is based upon what "everyone" agrees to.

I can't offer an opinion without more information, so here are a couple of general comments:

1. If the other party is investing in your business - the amount of equity they would receive in return would depend upon the "valuation" of the business at the time of their investment.

2. You say you have funded your new venture 100%,  yet your question is about others "putting up' 100% of the cash.

Assuming this is one business, I'd start by developing your concept of the current valuation. Although it won't necessarily be the "definitive" value - it will give you a starting point for your discussions.

 

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unlimited22

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Aug 20, 2010 12:53 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Keep in mind you have funded the business to date. You also seem to be doing most of the labor. Just because you need additional capital, don't give up 100% of your rights. Always keep a controlling interest whenever possible.

 

Build your business credit. Depending on how much you need, and if you already have some revenue coming in - you may be able to use your credit card sales (if that exists) for an advance.

 

Be care. Don't panic. Consider ALL your options. Perhaps you can meet with someone at the Small Business Association (SBA) who can help. You have options. Don't give away your entire company just because you're in a temporary pinch.

 

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AdvisorGarage

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Sep 20, 2010 11:12 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I would absolutely agree with all of the posts so far - here are a few additional considerations. Here is what you have put in so far...

...cash / time / commitment / focus / identifying the business opportunity / proving the business model and this is why this is called 'Sweat Equity'.

Because you have truly invested your sweat in the business.

The reality is that by moving the concept forward towards being a real business you have mitigated the risk of loss for the forthcoming investors - that means you have created real value for them.

The next stage is to determine what that value is - i.e. what the business is worth given those contributions. This is where the wheels often come off....

The investors have one idea and the entrepreneur often has another - they rarely meet.

So a smart person once said something to me which stuck and is very relevant for this situation...

"A small slice of a big pie is better than a big slice of no pie at all..."

Ask yourself if you NEED those new investors? Can you do it without them or will the business fail? Are they nice to haves or must haves?

Knowing the answer to those questions will help you decide if you need to do this deal or if you will only do it if the terms are right.

And what are the right terms?

The real answer to that is "Whatever you are prepared to sell the X% of the business that the investors want to buy for the money". This is one of those times when the right price is whatever they are prepared to pay and what you are prepared to accept.

I'm sure (as an MBA) there is some BS MBA type formula that should tell you what the right valuation should be - but the reality is - they are just that, BS. This is a GUT thing more than a head thing.

Oh and don't forget - investors are not just for Christmas - they end up sticking around for quite some time so make sure the chemistry is right otherwise the best deal on the planet can still turn into a nightmare!

Good Luck and contact me if I can help!

Andrew

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Jun 24, 2011 7:02 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I would absolutely agree with all of the posts so far - here are a few additional considerations. Here is what you have put in so far...

...cash / time / commitment / focus / identifying the business opportunity / proving the business model and this is why this is called 'Sweat Equity'.

Because you have truly invested your sweat in the business.

The reality is that by moving the concept forward towards being a real business you have mitigated the risk of loss for the forthcoming investors - that means you have created real value for them.

The next stage is to determine what that value is - i.e. what the business is worth given those contributions. This is where the wheels often come off....

The investors have one idea and the entrepreneur often has another - they rarely meet.

So a smart person once said something to me which stuck and is very relevant for this situation...

"A small slice of a big pie is better than a big slice of no pie at all..."

Ask yourself if you NEED those new investors? Can you do it without them or will the business fail? Are they nice to haves or must haves?

Knowing the answer to those questions will help you decide if you need to do this deal or if you will only do it if the terms are right.

And what are the right terms?

The real answer to that is "Whatever you are prepared to sell the X% of the business that the investors want to buy for the money". This is one of those times when the right price is whatever they are prepared to pay and what you are prepared to accept.

I'm sure (as an MBA) there is some BS MBA type formula that should tell you what the right valuation should be - but the reality is - they are just that, BS. This is a GUT thing more than a head thing.

Oh and don't forget - investors are not just for Christmas - they end up sticking around for quite some time so make sure the chemistry is right otherwise the best deal on the planet can still turn into a nightmare!

Good Luck and contact me if I can help!

Andrew

http://www.TheFundingGuru.com



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TimHuntley

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Jun 24, 2011 8:41 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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If you can't find common ground on the valuation, one strategy that might work is to cap the potential return for the outside investor at say 2x or 3x their investment or provide a way for you to buy back the equity at some point in the future at a reasonable ROI for the investor.

 

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