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Nuevolution

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Apr 08, 2008 1:08 PM ET Quote Report Abuse

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There are also lots of really nice Joomla templates for sale out there, too. Check out Rocket Theme (no affiliation). They can get you looking decent in just a few clicks and have a quality product. (You can also send me Joomla questions - that is the bulk of what I do these days - Joomla admin and online marketing.)
One important thing when working with such services: keep the Joomla code updated and secure, and keep the components/extensions updated, too!
@nuevoution - I am surprised you are so quiet...busy? I haven`t worked with Jcafe yet...at least I don`t think so...I am going to check it out.

Yes, Rocketheme is a good start... Did you know they are hiring.. can you imagine that?
Rockettheme are good, the only thing is that most of their templates are not currently up to date and they keep holding them off till a later time. I wouldn`t advise to use them since I am currently having issues with one of them. I would suggest you guys build your own from scratch at this point.

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yottazoo

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Apr 08, 2008 1:40 PM ET Quote Report Abuse

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scratch?! Yikes - better to download the `blank` and at least have the tedious stuff done, especially if you`re a beginner.
Rocket Theme has been hiring for sometime now...months it seems.
But Joomla does have a great forum with lots of helpful people.

Loren

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Apr 08, 2008 2:27 PM ET Quote Report Abuse

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Joomla has a usage agreement that forbids the integration with

3rd party commercial plugins. I don`t thoroughly understand

all the issues but here is the upshot - Commercial ecommerce

solutions cannot be used with Joomla and stay in compliance.

Hopefully the Joomla developers will come around, but for

now a lot of developers are steering clear of Joomla.

Joomla makes awesome-looking sites though. I have spent

more time playing with the Drupal CMS, also very full-featured.

Either one will cause some hair loss when you are starting out -

the learning curve is real and if you are in a hurry to get a working

site up you will get frustrated by things you don`t understand.

Nuevolution

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Apr 08, 2008 2:59 PM ET Quote Report Abuse

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Joomla has a usage agreement that forbids the integration with

3rd party commercial plugins. I don`t thoroughly understand

all the issues but here is the upshot - Commercial ecommerce

solutions cannot be used with Joomla and stay in compliance.

Hopefully the Joomla developers will come around, but for

now a lot of developers are steering clear of Joomla.

Joomla makes awesome-looking sites though. I have spent

more time playing with the Drupal CMS, also very full-featured.

Either one will cause some hair loss when you are starting out -

the learning curve is real and if you are in a hurry to get a working

site up you will get frustrated by things you don`t understand.

Joomla is a CMS system that likes to be compliant. They express their feelings for HTML validation and they like for their developers to know the basic coding scripts.
They can be overwhelming in the begining but... it is a fun learning experience..

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Edgar Monroy
Web Developer / Owner / Consultant
When starting your own business the need to "know-how" is greater than money!
http://www.nuevolution.net

art8

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Apr 08, 2008 5:28 PM ET Quote Report Abuse

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In all, I`m glad that I did build my own site and went to all that trouble. I just have more control on the overall operation of the site. Knowing a little CSS and HTML helped me understand a little of what is happening under the hood. I`m even surprise my site even works. That said, I`m not a programmer and barely a novice web master and so, I have ask.... do designers and programmers dream in codes?

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yottazoo

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Apr 08, 2008 5:39 PM ET Quote Report Abuse

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Doesn`t everyone?

Loren

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Apr 19, 2008 3:50 PM ET Quote Report Abuse

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There is a book called "Dreaming in Code" I found at my local

library. I read a little bit of it.

Its about a massive software development project that ultimately

produced software that didn`t work. This happens sometimes

in the development industry.

The LA city school district has spent like 200 million $ on software

development to pay their employees - and it doesn`t work.

barose

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Jun 08, 2008 1:31 PM ET Quote Report Abuse

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I recently had my website switched over to Joomla (hired someone to do it!) and its working pretty well for me so far though I do need to add a few features like a shopping cart and mailing list manager. It is a learning curve for me. I recently purchased Joomla! A Users Guide and it was definitely worth the $30.

cma01

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Jun 11, 2008 2:38 PM ET Quote Report Abuse

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I love Joomla . . . LOVE it. Having said that, as others have mentioned, there is a pretty big learning curve to use it. It`s pretty straightforward, but you have to get used to how things are done.

As far at developing Joomla sites, for me, 20% of the time is spent on the layout design and template development, the other 80% is in installing the components, modules and configuring the menus.

I`ve set Virtuemart up on a couple of sites. I`ve used the Mambo/Joomla script since before it forked and I`m pretty familiar with the way things are coded, but Virtuemart is something else.

I haven`t looked at J!Cafe before, but one thing that is a little interesting is that the checkout button on that site is from Virtuemart.

I have played around with Magento a little, but just looking at the shopping cart features, Zen Cart has a lot more options.

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SherylCPA

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Jun 11, 2008 10:48 PM ET Quote Report Abuse

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Joomla has a usage agreement that forbids the integration with

3rd party commercial plugins. I don`t thoroughly understand

all the issues but here is the upshot - Commercial ecommerce

solutions cannot be used with Joomla and stay in compliance.

Loren,

I looked through the Joomla site and I can`t seem to find any reference to the restrictions you mention. Would you please provide a link to the material you`re talking about so I can read more about it?

Thanks.

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