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rusman

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Nov 29, 2007 12:28 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Hello everyone-
 
I have an idea for a product, but I`m concerned about how to protect it. Let me use an example that will hopefully help.
 
For example, I have thought of the idea of a standard, round ball, Christmas ornament. I haven`t seen or heard of this product before. I can make them in many different colors and sizes, and I can also put artwork or other logos on them. It seems it would be easy enough for a competitor to create a similar product with different colors, shapes and artwork/logos.
 
What type of protection would I need (TM, Patent, C), and would that protect my idea when competitors start selling a similar, but slightly different, product, as stated above?
KJC

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Nov 29, 2007 1:30 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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A patent on your product would not be a bad idea.  However, patents are pretty specific and any minor alteration by a competitor and they are not in violation of your patent.  There are restrictions on use, etc. and the more unique your product is, the more likely you could uphold your rights in court.  Another thing to do, if you are planning to have someone else manufacture this product, is to request that the manufacturer sign a non-compete nor disclose statement that is applicable for a fixed period of time.  Some companies will sign these, others will not.  Good luck!
rusman

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Nov 29, 2007 11:39 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Good idea on the non-compete/nda. Thanks for the reply, however I have a question:

I thought a patent was for a `process`? Given my example, this wouldn`t be a new process to make the Christmas ornament, but it would require a new mold (or whatever is used to make the shapes). Given that, would it still be patent-able?

CraigL

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Nov 30, 2007 12:25 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Talk with a patent and/or trademark attorney. We`ve had a number of discussions about this in previous topics, and it`s a whole lot more complicated than it appears on the surface.

Would you patent a "ball?" No, because it`s not unique. Would you patent the process of putting logos on your ball? How? Is the process unique, never before accomplished by anyone? 

Would you trademark the logos that already are trademarked by the owners of the logo?

An attorney specializing in patents and trademarks and copyrights would be the best solution here, I think.
patentandtrademark

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Dec 01, 2007 11:41 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Consult and be prepared to pay a patent attorney.  I disagree that it is always the case that "patents are pretty specific and any minor alteration by a competitor and they are not in violation of your patent."

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James Lindon, Ph.D. Patent Attorney
Lindon & Lindon, LLC
Cleveland, Ohio
Patents, Trademarks, Copyrights, Pharmacy Law, Litigation
[this is not legal advice - provided for discussion only]
Intellectual Property for the Individual and Small Business: Identify, Protect, Enforce, Defend.
"Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."
http://www.LindonLaw.com
rusman

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Dec 03, 2007 5:37 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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How much, ballpark, would I be expected to pay a patent attorney? I know that fees vary, but just a close guess would help me budget.

Imortal

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Jan 17, 2008 10:01 AM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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I would say to get started  you are looking at a min. of 400.00 in his fees plus another 100.00 fileing fee, as the process moves forward the price goes up. The last pattent I did to protect a new program cost just under 5,000.00 and that did not cover international.
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