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Shokoya

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Apr 06, 2009 5:32 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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There`s not much money in healthy people. Just like there`s not much work for a divorce lawyer when marriages are all happy and healthy. The real money is in sick people, frightened people, and in angry wars between married couples.



Great point Craig.

The truth is...

People will pay more to avoid pain than to gain pleasure.
CraigL

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Apr 06, 2009 8:29 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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RE:  People will pay more to avoid pain than to gain pleasure.

I really disagree with this, but leave it for the "Marketing Fear or Joy" thread.

Where I`ll accept the argument would be with a slight modification: "In today`s world...." and so on.

We`re in a strange change-point of history, where anxiety and fear are the strong forces, and creation and joy are the weak force. But I don`t accept that people are designed that way. It only appears that way in our particular moment of history.
Shokoya

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Apr 07, 2009 5:21 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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RE:  People will pay more to avoid pain than to gain pleasure.

I really disagree with this, but leave it for the "Marketing Fear or Joy" thread.



I appreciate you disagree with this. But it`s a fact...

For example...

A person will pay more to cure an illness than they will to stay healthy in the first place.

They will also pay more for a solution to a problem than a prevention for that same problem.

Can`t argue whether we`re wired that way or not.

But for me, the proof is in the pudding...or should that be in the profits?
CraigL

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Apr 07, 2009 10:25 PM ET    Quote  Report Abuse
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Staying healthy isn`t the same as gaining pleasure. And that`s where I think all this discussion goes off the track. We`ve reached a time in history where the lack of pain is the same as the presence of joy.

I remember asking various people, "Are you happy?"

Some would say, "Well, I`m not UNhappy." Others would say, "I`m content." Somehow, they believed that their response was the same as saying they were happy. But the also "sensed" that there was something missing in the response.

I don`t have any numbers, but I wonder what the dollars would indicate if selling sex was legal? Would they match the dollars net-profits of the pharmaceutical industry? What about Viagra?

There`s no disagreement that people facing a crisis of pain and death will do whatever they can to get out of that crisis. I also agree that, generally speaking, most people take a non-critical status for granted.

But where I disagree is in the devaluation of joy and pleasure. Given two doors, behind one being pain; behind the other being pleasure, I think people would pay more to open the door to pleasure. They would certainly pay a lot to prevent the door of pain being opened, but that`s not an ordinary situation.

People don`t go through life expecting the door to pain being opened on a random basis. Otherwise, they would simply eliminate the door.

It`s that we live in a new phase of life, these days, where people DO expect random visitations of pain, with no control at all over the outcome. How did that come about? I think it`s the marketing of fear.
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